FINALLY!!!!!!

IT'S JUST A HOBBY.GET OVER IT.JUST THINK OF ALL THE FREE SPACE IN CW NOTCH.10 METER'S IS NOT A LOST.THE ONLY TIME IT USED IS AT CONTEST TIME'S.

 

thats a tech statement if ive ever heard one 10 meter is a very popular band. even at the bottom of the sunspot cycle!

 

I've been a NCT since 1996, and spend most of my time listening, not just on the bands on which I've been authorized, but on HF as well. I key the mike on 2M once in a while, but most of my enjoyment of radio is listening. I never upgraded because mostly I've never really planned to do a lot of talking on HF.

As a NCT who's never passed a MC test, I have to say I'm sad to see it go. I've always liked the exclusivity of amateur radio. CW has long been a tradition and I don't think CW will go away, of course, but it's sort of like letting kids get drivers licenses just because their old enough, not by demonstrating any knowledge of how to drive a car.

I hope that the result of all this will be that more people are encouraged to participate in amateur radio. HF and particularly 10M will probably be a bit crazy for a while, but 10M has been used illegally for quite a while anyway.

I'd really like to see that since they're taking away the code test that the remaining tests become more of a challenge. There are always going to be newbies out there, whether they know code or not, but it would be good to make it still an achievement to get to General and Extra class.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards!

 

The new folks coming in I don't think have Nothing to do with the "Dumbing Down" that has happened already. In fact, people that have their extra ticket have done more to get the service cheapened than any so called NCT's.

I hope you are right ! I think that they will cry and whine about getting rid of the test next, then,,,

"BREAKER BREAKER 20 METERS"

~# SQUEEEL ~#@! SQUAWWK !!! ~!#

 

I am wondering- whats worse "breaker breaker 20 meters " or listening to someone urinating in their bathroom on 75 meters am?

I suppose it could be worse- or better....

 

My opinion is that the R+O is a win win situation for amateur radio.  CW operating is not going away.  If you love CW then stick with it.  As far as 10 meters becoming just like 11 meters, Technicians are restricted to using 28.300-28.500 for phone and 28.00-28.300 for CW, RTTY and data.  Extra, Advanced, and General classes have the additional use of 28.500-29.700 for CW, phone and image.  In addition the Technician will also be able to use 3525-3600 CW only, 7025-7125 CW only, and 21.025-21.200 CW only.  It seems to me that might inspire some people to use CW on these newly acquired frequencies.  As far as the testing procedure is concerned the MC questions work very well from a VE's standpoint.  If any of you think that an applicant can memorize an entire question pool with approximately 900 questions, I think that assumption is incorrect.  Most people that I have seen coming to a VE session have studied to the best of their ability.  Some pass, some fail, But all learn from their experience.  Hopefully this will encourage more people into the hobby and others to upgrade their license.  It wasn't a "cake walk" for me to attain my Extra class license and it won't be "easy as pie" for most others.  Only time will tell but operators that couldn't grasp CW now will be able to advance in our great hobby of amateur radio.

 

"In fact, people that have their extra ticket have done more to get the service cheapened than any so called NCT's." So quoted UZR.

Thank You ... I guess all my efforts over the last 2+ years as an Extra is wasted ... but not the previous 38+ as a General. It would appear that those who I have elmered over the last 2+ years has been a waste.

Shame isn't it.

Interesting the things you learn here. Me thinks it is time to just let it go. As I have stated time and time again ... if the new guys bring an attitude with them on HF, I think it will be lonely.

Bill, W0LPQ/9

 

Trix are for kids. Thanks

 

The petition to undue the R&O will be reviewed by the FCC for about 10 seconds and then stuck in the back of a filing cabinet. Anyone who thinks the FCC is going to turn this around is in total denial.

The old timers had a chance to keep the code for the extra class license but they didn't want to give an inch of meaningful HF privileges to anyone who didn’t pass a code test.

They should have realized that code testing was in trouble after the ITU dropped the code requirement in 03. So instead of being reasonable and sending a petition to the FCC to seek just dropping the code test for the general, you had groups like SPAR and FISTS who sent in petitions to the FCC demanding they BUMP THE CODE BACK TO 13 & 20 WPM and makes the written tests harder.

Groups like FISTS and SPAR did this betting if they took such a hard-line stance the FCC would just leave the code alone. Well as we all can see they lost that bet.

The code is gone for good, if you cannot deal with it seek some counseling and if that doesn't help then find another hobby.


Eric KC5FOG

 

Interesting the things you learn here. Me thinks it is time to just let it go. As I have stated time and time again ... if the new guys bring an attitude with them on HF, I think it will be lonely.

I do think most of the attitude is coming from the the people already on HF, not the new hams.

It all a seperation of class. and thumbing yur noses up at someone and looking down upon someone else just to make yourself feel better. the FCC just leveled the playing field for everyone. we all need new blood in the hobby.javascript:emoticon ('')
smilie.

 

A totally unbiased opinion from a 12 year technician.

Pfffft.

 

0TRN says ... "It all a seperation of class. and thumbing yur noses up at someone and looking down upon someone else just to make yourself feel better. the FCC just leveled the playing field for everyone. we all need new blood in the hobby."

I don't think anyone is thumbing their noses ... what I find amazing, the "class distinction" has prevailed for many years until the "I want it now" crowd started its call for equalization.

We are all amateur radio operators. Some with more experience and talents than others. So what. We all worked to get where we are. Some put forth more effort than others. That is how it goes in life. You want something more or extra, you work for it.

Not any more. That is sad.

Bill, W0LPQ/9

 

Nevermind. It didn't work I'll link to it later.

 

Well morse code is not the difference between classes
or being dumber and less than anyone else.

thats all I here from you old timers, Radio is not all about the code, its about electronics theory and making advancements in the art of radio communications NOT dit da dit.

Its the difference of wanting to use it or not !

Why ? should anyone be forced use RTTY or DATA Modes,
if they choose not to.

Morse code back in the day, had its use. but now its out dated as a digital mode of operation.


So if you have a attitude about someone else getting a licence class privllige just because of the rules changing.

After you had to use CW as a mode of operation before the rules have changed.

Which to me seems to be very selfish and closed minded.

We as hams no matter what Class should welcome everyone with open arms and minds.

So do not look down on those who take these new rules run with them.

But if we have confrontation from the start it will only end in confrontation and ill will among all of us.

We can now diminish the prevailing "class distinction" on radio once and for all.

So do you want some bread with that wine ??

KB0TRN

 

KB0TRN

Another sit on my dead a$$ waiting on the government to save me.

What a great asset to HF?