Friendly Reminder - BAND PLANS, folks

Discussion in 'General Announcements' started by K0OKS, Oct 7, 2017.

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  1. K0OKS

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    Correct... it seems we agree.

    Was only ever asking people to be gentlemanly (womanly) and *try* to avoid using that frequency if possible. I should have said "try" and "when possible" in the original posting, which I think is the part with which what you took umbrage.

    It was in now way meant to mean "you can't be here, go away." In reviewing my original post I do see how it could possibly have been interpreted that way. Sorry for the confusion.
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  2. N2UHC

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    Call me Ishmael...
  3. WR2E

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    It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.
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  4. K3LI

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    Nope SSTV
  5. OE2RPL

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    I would like to kindly remember that all IARU bandplans for all regions specify 14230 as the SSTV frequency (they call it image center of activity). So it is not just an ARRL thing, it is a world wide agreement. Of course, you are not bound legally to a IARU recommendation, but it would be clever not to ignore well planned bandplans. This the wording of the introduction of the band plan:
    The IARU Region 2 has established this band plan as the way to better organize the use of our bands efficiently. To the extent possible, this band plan is harmonized with those of the other regions. It is suggested that Member Societies, in coordination with the authorities, incorporate it in their regulations and promote it widely with their radio amateur communities.

    73 de Peter
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  6. KK5JY

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    So it's an even bigger request for exclusive channel for a single mode? Where does it stop?

    JT65/FT8/JT9 and their brethren now occupy the better part of 10kHz in each of the digital subbands. If they convince ARRL to list those items in the "band plan," does that mean that we have 10kHz less digital mode spectrum because of one guy's invention? Naturally those guys will say "heck yeah," but where does it stop?

    What you quoted is simply a statement on the coordination between IARU and their member societies.

    There's a reason why FCC (mostly) doesn't engage in mode-related allocations. They understand the concept of shared spectrum, and as a result, all band plans are voluntary, and their use is subordinate to current band and traffic conditions. Even ARRL says that in the footnotes to their band plan(s).
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  7. K0OKS

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    If new, useful, and utilized modes appear then they will likely get a spot on the bandplans. This is what bandplans are for... To keep those modes from going all over the place and come to an agreement on where they should go.

    SSTV has been on these bandplans for decades. Nothing new here.

    That "one guy's invention" (JT9/65FT8) is a very heavily used collection of modes, far exceeding SSB and CW in QSO count. The QSOs are not very personal IMHO, but those modes cannot be ignored.

    Note that there is not a giant influx of new hams, so the QSOs are simply changing modes, and thus changing places on the bands. It more people move to a new mode the utilized areas of the band will be expanded for those modes in the bandplans.

    It doesn't stop. And why should it? If new technologies come along to improve communication then the bandplans will adapt, unlike some hams. We don't need the great and powerful government to tell us how to run our spectrum.
  8. K2HAT

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    More than once this happened on more than one Frequency, not just 14.230; but that seemed to be the worst in 2014 when I was active for the ARRL Centennial QSO Party.

    I have listened for 5 minutes and called 3 times, asking is the Frequency in use, to get no reply.

    10 minutes later I am getting QRM from someone who did not ask if the Frequency was in use. ;) 73 K2HAT

    Now It is rare for me to get on the air unless chasing some rarer DX.
  9. WA6MHZ

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    What really gets DICEY is on Field day when our transmitter strays near 14.300!! The Channel cops for that Maritime Mobil net get exceptionally Nasty. I have been chased off because I got within 5KCs of their PRIVATE FREQUENCY!!!
  10. KK5JY

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    I see where you are coming from, and I mostly agree with what you are saying. :cool:

    That said, when the band plan is used to tell other people that they can't use an open frequency because the band plan says that frequency is for another mode, that's where the "band plan" argument has gone too far.

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