Hams -- File Written Testimony on HOA Restrictions!!

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  1. W6EM

    W6EM Ham Member QRZ Page

    On Wednesday, September 12, Capitol Hill Hearings on "Resilient Communications" will be held before the Emergency Preparedness Subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee. The Subcommittee is chaired by Representative Gus Bilirakis (R-FL) and the Ranking Minority Member is Representative Laura Richardson (D-CA).

    Since Amateur Radio is one of the most "resilient" of America's "resilient" communications -- a true Emergency Communications asset in a disaster or a megadisaster -- Written Testimony about ham radio survivability is relevant to these Hearings.

    NICK LEGGETT N3NL of Virginia and I have already filed Written Testimony, calling for new legislation to override over-regulation of ham antennas by Homeowners' Associations (HOAs) and landlords.

    Before September 12, at least 2 other parties plan to file Written Testimony that hammers home the same basic point. One of these parties is ROBERT C. BOYD, M.D. WA5VSK of Texas. (For a copy, contact "Doc" at wa5vsk@gmail.com) In addition, DON SCHELLHARDT, ESQUIRE KI4PMG of Connecticut will be filing comprehensive Written Testimony on behalf of HAMS FOR ACTION (HFA). (For a copy, contact Don at djslaw@gmail.com)
    If you wish to write up and submit your own Written Testimony for the September 12 Hearings:

    A. ATTACH the document, clearly labeled as Written Testimony, to an E-Mail. Only one copy is needed. Your cover E-Mail Message should start with "Dear Chairman Bilirakis and Ranking Minority Member Richardson:".

    B. Say this, or something like this, EXPLICITLY: "I respectfully request you to place this Written Testimony into the public record for the September 12 Emergency Preparedness Subcommittee Hearings on 'Resilient Communications'."

    C. Send the E-Mail to homeland.security@mail.house.gov (for Representative Gus Bilirakis, R-FL) and nicole.johnson@mail.house.gov (for Representative Laura Richardson, D-CA)

    You MUST send this E-Mail. and Attached Testimony, ON OR BEFORE the day of the Hearing: Wednesday, September 12. Earlier is probably better.

    On Behalf of Hams For Action,

    Lee McVey
    Leeds, AL
  2. N7WR

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    Sorry, and I know this won't make me popular with many, but using amateur radio Emcomm as a justification for over-riding HOA Covenants ( mutual agreements that the buyer signed in to) is a less than honest justification. Yes, amateurs do provide emergency communications but the vast majority of that is NOT conducted from one's place of residence. I can appreciate that some hams have little if any choice over where they live---jobs tend to dictate that. And, I realize that in some places finding housing w/o HOA's is difficult. But having lived in such circumstances I always found it possible to get on the air (HF, VHF and UHF) and "work the world" on HF. VHF/UHF was never a problem and, frankly, that is what most Emcomm consists of. Life's a b---- and we don't always get everything we want. HOA's aren't tower and yagi friendly but a well disguised wire can still work the world and that was enough to keep me interested during those few years I was HOA restricted.

    I hate to see amateur radio's Emcomm role exaggerated and/or used as a false justification for anythng. It cheapens the service and cheapens Emcomm in particular.
  3. WA7PRC

    WA7PRC Ham Member QRZ Page

    As well as the above comment, I could be wrong about this but, don't our elected representatives have MUCH bigger fish to fry? IMO, they're free beat this dead horse... after MUCH higher priority business is handled. Until then, this is less than a NON issue.
  4. N2PHI

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    IMO I would be in support of restrictions being lifted on behalf of Amateur Radio because in my eyes I feel that you never know what part you will play in an emergency. You could be the only link for your town or neighborhood. I understand your point of view. I get it. What I don't get it how the heck in America can someone or organization dictate to you what you should or should not do with your own property and further more how can a state or local government allow such to occur. These individuals pay taxes just like anyone else. If you own your home and pay taxes on your home you should have the right to do whatever you damn please. I seen fights here in NJ from HOA's telling people that they cannot fly an American Flag outside their home. That is just ridiculous. Men and Women fought and died for everything that they flag stood for. HOA's are very unamerican in my own opinion which doesn't count for anything. I think HOA's should be banned nationwide.
  5. AB6ST

    AB6ST Ham Member QRZ Page

    I agree with you 200% .. very well said. It is next to impossible to buy a new house, which does not have HOA restrictions. You can get one in the Bundocks , not in a metropolitan area. I don't see any real good this HOA contributes but just a tool for those bored housewives to poke their noses in their neighbors properties and tell you what to do and what not to do in your own property. I Agree on Total Ban on HOA Nationwide !!!!

  6. AB6ST

    AB6ST Ham Member QRZ Page

    Good Luck Lee.. I hope you will be successful. Then those Nay Sayers will eat their words LOL !!!
  7. WX1DX

    WX1DX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Folks do a little research on why HOA's came about the founding principal behind the was to discrimination! read the first 4 paragraphs of the history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association Folks it is time to unify on the subject rather than argue the fact is that The federal government was created to govern just this kind of issue and has done so for nearly 100 year's! from before the communications act of 1934 to today all hams are asking for is what is all ready allowed to commercial services under http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule notice how amateur radio was deliberate not covered under the act this in it's self should inflame EVERY ham operator!see how it is so intentionally blatantly written to discriminate against not just the Amateur radio operator but short wave,scanner, CB and other federally granted Even public safety personnel that work on call from there homes. But buy changing one sentence it would cover the entire matter! So new legislation while being very nice is not necessarily needed just an amendment to the existing Law. I support the total Ban of HOA's also on the grounds that they violate at there very core multiple constitutional amendments the two primary being freedom of speech and freedom of association.
  8. W4BUZ

    W4BUZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    I agree, these HOA`s DO NOT pay your mortgage and therefore should NOT be able to tell any homeowner what they can and cant do on their property

    HOA`s are nothing but a racket
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2012
  9. W4RAV

    W4RAV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Great post Jerry! This CC&R's issue is so beat-to-death, it's refreshing to see someone say something sensible instead of whining about something they can do little about.

    Although amateur radio has helped in emergencies, this "if all else fails" mentality doesn't give us carte blanche over legal agreements. If you moved into a place with restrictions, whether you were a ham or not when you did, is a decision you probably signed willingly. To bitch about it now that you're in the hobby (or whatever) is pointless. Sure, it sucks for radio ops, but I bet the non-hams in your HOA sure appreciate it.

    I'd add to that bet that if you knew nothing about amateur radio, you'd be on the side of those not wanting to look at the metal monstrosities some of us put up!
  10. W4RAV

    W4RAV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Kinda defeats the purpose of an HOA. They're designed to set a standard that, ideally, is democratically agreed upon by it's members. Some folks don't want to live somewhere that has junk cars parked in the yards around them, or lazy-bones lets his weed-filled yard go to seed and blow your year's worth of lawn work, or, yes, big ugly antennas.

    Somewhere in my reading I came across this great comment: "...your incompatible baggage and habits from another community just might be the very reason the HOA residents left their former community and came to this HOA covenant controlled neighborhood..."

    Yes, the activities of the HOA may be a "racket" as you called it, but hell, what isn't? Even amateur radio has it's commercial industry. We all want to make a buck.
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