Using The International Phonetic Alphabet

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by WX4W, Mar 6, 2019.

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  1. KF4HAY

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    This horse ain't dead yet ,, .......
     
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  2. WA4KFZ

    WA4KFZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Several years ago, while visiting the ARRL headquarters, I had the privilege of being able to operate W1AW for a few hours. It was the only time in my life that I was the source of the pileup!

    One thing I observed was how confusing it was to have some hams use the NATO alphabet while others used some other "cute" adaptation. After several hours, it became fatiguing to correctly copy call signs for the log. Using a *consistent* alphabet would have helped tremendously.

    The phonetic alphabet is a tool; use the correct tool for the job at hand. If you're engaged in emergency communications or public service events, then use the NATO alphabet. If contesters and rag chewers want to come up with their own phonetic alphabet, then have at it.
     
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  3. KF4HAY

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    This horse ain't going to fly and neither is common sense ....?? I've heard it over and over , ,,, it's fine for every day normal contacts or ragchew , but for dx'ing , I've heard heard them say repeat , repeat , , again again, to cutesy phonetics, , but once they use standard phonetics , the dx says roger roger, 7s's, ,, but to each his own and surely they will see sooner or later what works, ,,, maybe , don't matter , as they say it's just a hobby, , even during emergency communications , so , good luck ...... KF4HAY

    and it's Kwe Bec , even people in Quebec call it KweBec ,,, just like Louisville , Ky , some call it Louville, some Louaaville , some Louis ville, , but if you live there or go there you can call it what you want , people know what you mean , right ????
     
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  4. NG0Z

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    Obviously, there are no requirements and I don't think the article said that. It is frustrating, at least for me, to hear other operators inventing their own, non-standard phonetic alphabet, and then wonder why they have to give their callsign five times to make the contact. I think the point of the article is that using a standard, consistent phonetic alphabet better serves the core purpose of using phonetics in the first place and furthermore is, and I agree, a mark of a "professional" amateur, no pun intended.
     
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  5. RZ1O

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    I guess, already a hundred times I finished a QSO when I was barely heard, after four time RZ1Oscar for the fifth time, saying, 'Ontario'! And at the other side: "Aaah, Ontario, RZ1Ontario, u're in the log!" I don't think, I say (pronounce) 'Oscar' wrong! Then how we joke 'I give a tooth' - it helps, comrades! Variations of letters-words help! And let Your NATO allow me to say RussiaZ1O although at times, because for the sake of the letter 'Russia' I've changed my ex perfect callsign UA1OCW! The same theme with the Italians, French, the Japanese etc )) And yet - the letters Golf & Hotel, generally, about anything! They're dim muted! Compare with Germany & Henry is just heaven and earth! If I kept saying 'Oscar, Oscar', I would definitely have lost a dozen slots ;) Actually, there are 2-3 words to each letter in the practical use, we, HAMs, came up with ourselves the additional ones, because the official ones sometimes do not help.. Let only official Phonetic Alphabet only the pilots all over the world (and Your NATO) use! We all in our countries are passing exams and should know and answer the basic ITU Phonetic Alphabet but sometimes allow ourseves to use those which help us in our opinion at that exact moment!
    73! de RZ1O (sorry for the grammar
    p.s. and, you yourself, finally figure out how to pronounce 'Quebec'!))) (I'm kidding)
     
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  6. KR3DX

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    I agree on all of those points, and I would take the time zone thing a step farther: The whole world should use UTC in the 24 hour format as the ONLY time zone, no "local" time zones! Simple. Adjust your daily schedule accordingly. The notion that it is noon when the sun is at its apogee is archaic, it stems from ancient times when the sun was the ONLY way to tell time,there is no need for this in today's world. Realistically though, NONE of these things are going to happen for a LONG, LONG time. People are resistant to change, "it's always been done this way" is their rationale.
     
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  7. KJ4VTH

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  8. KF4HAY

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  9. K1ZBT

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    That was fun!
     
  10. UT7UX

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    But still is somewhat difficult to understand for the uninitiated. :)
     

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