Progressive Changes at the ARRL

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by M1MRB, Feb 28, 2021.

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  1. K0IDT

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    Evidently they don't listen, or if they do they don't comprehend very well. If they did "listen" they would have heard the loud dissent on all their various FCC initiatives and changed course. What do you say to an organization that
    knows full well in advance that membership does not support something destined for the FCC but goes ahead and files it anyway? How about a BoD directive getting changed, probably by the EC, on the way to the FCC? The cherry on top is the ARRL telling membership if they want to provide input on an FCC submission to do it on the FCC site, translation: we know it's going to take heat, we filed it anyway, we don't want to deal with any complaints (constructive or otherwise), 'cuz we know what's best for the service--at least for the small segment with more insider influence than the average hamster. It's a bit embarrassing to have to withdraw an FCC petition in light of the opposing comments. Been that way for at least the last 3 decades and no sign the "listening" abilities have improved at the League.
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  2. KE8QEP

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    What FCC submissions are you talking about?
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  3. K0IDT

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    How far back in history do you wish to go? Try RM-11306 for starters, do some research on that and you'll see just how far back things go. There's more prior to that if you look. More recently RM-11708, start to finish in less then a year
    with no apparent member input. Check the comment section on the FCC site to see how popular that one was. RM-11708 was the one that K1ZZ said to comment on the ECFS. Oh, K1ZZ is also on video saying that opposition to
    RM-11708 is "irrational". Attitude from the supposed national organization is not conducive to getting and retaining members.

    There's a ton more of the ARRL nonsense if you want to dig for it and educate yourself. Past BoD minutes and Committee reports are also good reading, if you have an open mind and don't blindly support the League. It's not League bashing if it's true.
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  5. K0UO

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    It Started back in 1966/67 and it gets worse every decade.
    Most of you probably don't remember what they did back then.
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  6. KE8QEP

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    What did they do to upset you 55 years ago?
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  7. K0UO

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    They didn't upset me, but they upset at least half the active amateurs maybe more.

    That helped Wayne Green start 73 magazine and CQ was even doing great in those days.

    Others will probably comment.
    which took away many privileges from the General, Advanced and Novice went into effect in 1968.
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  8. K0IDT

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    Incentive licensing would be a good guess. ARRL idea that killed amateur radio growth and some say it led to the demise of some old line US amateur radio manufacturers. Google is your friend, search "ARRL incentive licensing".

    The really funny part is now the ARRL is going for "reverse incentive" licensing....they call it "enhanced licensing".
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  9. KE8QEP

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    I looked up some information on that, it seems that there was already a tiered system and they changed it reducing some privileges for some license class and added higher classes (or something like that). As a new ham technician class, based on reading this forum, the tiered system is very popular amongst the higher class hams. They seem rather bitter that the non-code hams like myself even exist; and think we are killing the hobby.
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  10. KE8QEP

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    When you have a big group people many decisions will upset about 50 percent of the folks. Not really the same, but it's like giving a test, 20% will think it's too hard and 20% will think it was too easy.
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