Progressive Changes at the ARRL

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  1. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    The bottom line in this thread is a news update on actions taken by the ARRL in the January board meetiong.

    They all seem pretty reasonable.

    Can't say the word 'progressive' is apt here, despite the alleged multifarious definitions of the word. Just not relevant.
     
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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    OK. Speculate all you want. I have no interest in compromising the good heart and great works of donors. If they want you to know they will tell you.

    Certainly their is nothing "progressive" in their kindness for others. It's just human nature. "Continuity" would be more apt.

    There is no socialistic/communistic "progressive" conspiracy at the ARRl.
     
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  3. W5UAA

    W5UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't understand why people are disagreeing with the ARRL on this matter. Are you having difficulty finding a VEC test session in your area? Do you feel there's a need to add another VEC to take over your area because several of the existing 14 VECs who claim to be operating in your area are not operating in your area? Are you having trouble finding three hams willing to get certified under the same VEC in your area? Is anyone claiming any or all the VECs who are operating in your area are not doing things right or well? Will adding a 15th VEC solve any of these problems? What other problems are you having that a 15 VEC would solve? (I've already answered this last question several posts ago.)

    In this case, I agree with the ARRL's position on this matter.

    It's not uncommon for my local club to report no one showed up for testing this month, several months in a row. It's exiting news when someone shows up and passes a tech test or upgrades. Supply overwhelming exceeds demand in my area.
     
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  4. N0TZU

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    Timeline of ARRL complaints:

    β€œ The ARRL is stuck in the past and never changes!”

    a little later...

    β€œThe ARRL is trying to change things and must be stopped!”

    Repeating endlessly.
     
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  5. N1IPU

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    Self protection at the sacrifice of others is far from noble and should never be supported. Maybe I am rare in that thought but men in my family all served for the past 600 years so I am conditioned to serve for the benefit of others and not ourselves.
    If we look at the history of unions representing workers or like in our case Ham operators over time they are corrupted to the point of working to the detriment of those they supposedly serve. That's why I support the militia model for unions like the ARRL.
    Come together for a cause then disband once that goal is achieved. The ARRL is useless at this point. Their only direction is self survival, Not pushing forward the art but instead draining it dry. We really don't need them at all. A museum sure but everything else can be served in another way more efficiently.

    As far as money goes, Were supposed to serve the public and not take from it to make sure the band gets a paycheck. They will suck money from anyone at any cost. They need to go. Sites and individuals like here at QRZ can easily step up and offer better service with better quality. We have a very good group of men an women in the Art who would gladly step up in the absence of the ARRL. They would do it better and more efficiently. If fact they already do in many areas.
     
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  6. K1LKP

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    ARRL MEMBER BENEFITS.jpg
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    73 - K1LKP
     
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  7. K1LKP

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    HI FRIENDS,

    OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE HAD TO CALL THE ARRL
    HEADQUARTERS FOR VARIOUS HAM RADIO
    RELATED ITEMS.

    THEY WERE ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL.
    IF THE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY
    AVAILABLE THEY WOULD SEND YOU A FOLLOW
    UP EMAIL TO ASSIST YOU IN YOUR REQUEST.

    AT PRESENT DATE, WITH THE COVID MATTER
    I AM NOT SURE IF THE ARRL HEADQUARTERS
    IS FULLY STAFFED.

    ARRL CALL THEM.jpg

    73 - K1LKP

     
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  8. N1IPU

    N1IPU Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Must be the lobbyists checking in.
     
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  9. K0IDT

    K0IDT Ham Member QRZ Page

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    Evidently they don't listen, or if they do they don't comprehend very well. If they did "listen" they would have heard the loud dissent on all their various FCC initiatives and changed course. What do you say to an organization that
    knows full well in advance that membership does not support something destined for the FCC but goes ahead and files it anyway? How about a BoD directive getting changed, probably by the EC, on the way to the FCC? The cherry on top is the ARRL telling membership if they want to provide input on an FCC submission to do it on the FCC site, translation: we know it's going to take heat, we filed it anyway, we don't want to deal with any complaints (constructive or otherwise), 'cuz we know what's best for the service--at least for the small segment with more insider influence than the average hamster. It's a bit embarrassing to have to withdraw an FCC petition in light of the opposing comments. Been that way for at least the last 3 decades and no sign the "listening" abilities have improved at the League.
     
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