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HamRadioNow: That ARRL Entry Level License Survey

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KN4AQ, Mar 2, 2017.

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  1. N5IPA

    N5IPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    They cheat themselves.

    Now enough people have cheated themselves that people think we should make it easier for them to do so.
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  2. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page


    Still shudder if I think too hard about my mom driving me to the intimidating Federal Building in downtown St. Paul MN, then trekking up alone to the coldly ominous FCC office for the General exam.

    The sender used for the Morse code exam was some bizarre punched-tape electro-mechanical "steam punk" black box that I swear SPED UP during the run! But I made it through first time.

    Then had to sweat out the written that included remembering and drawing the SCHEMATIC (see previous post #1110 by W1YW)

    Even then none of that material really mattered to being a good ham. It was just a gov't supported INITIATION HAZING!

    That was then, this is now. Times change as should the objectives and methods for qualifying those that seek the privileges of the license. The current QUESTION POOL SIZE is even more bogus.
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2017
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  3. N5IPA

    N5IPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    The question pool size is irrelevant to the people that learn the material. It is monumental to those the memorize the questions and answers.

    Does the question pool need to be updated? possibly, but certainly not reduced to make it easier to memorize.

    Memorization was not the intent, it is a loop hole. Those that can and do take advantage of the loop hole so be it and good for them. Those that don't there are plenty of resources available from books to tutors and even classes.

    It is not the 1960's very few people do not carry the internet in their pockets these days, so it is a matter of choice study for a ham ticket or not.

    It is a matter of desire not difficulty.
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  4. AD5KO

    AD5KO Ham Member QRZ Page

    That was a really good post, enjoyed it a lot. I could read some more of that stuff.

    My first CB experience was on a 10/11 meter radio in the 70's, I thought it was a regular CB and I was talking to truckers in Arizona on channel 19 thinking that was normal. I was in the UK at the time.

    Anyway, this is off topic, but like I said I really enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for that.


  5. AB4D

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    Perhaps, and I have no problem with any testing that complies with the regulations, and ensures that applicants possess sufficient knowledge in the subject matter. However, under the current rules. It appears, a non-technical test, would not comply with current regulations.

    Jim AB4D
  6. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    You're very welcome Andrew, thanks for the kind reply.

    Actually, IMO, your early 11 meter DX'ing experiences as a "G" were probably in many ways a better autodidactic operator skill exercise then the current Tech question pool provides to become a "W".
  7. AD5KO

    AD5KO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Today I actually have a radio room because of it, built last year, still not finished but getting there. :)

    You should have seen my confusion when I realized the people I was talking to were in the USA. This is a good point about getting younger people into the hobby, the current sun spot cycle isn't helping us is it, DX was shockingly easy back then. For me it was DX that got me hooked, talking to people in another country, something I could not do on a telephone on my own. Perhaps we should be showing young people that aspect of the hobby, today most everything else we can do on a mobile phone but not that so easy. May be setting up schedules for DX demo's would work, not easy now but doable.

  8. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Things were a simpler back in the 60s as far as amateur radio is concerned. "The New Frontier" (1961-63) "The Age of Camelot" (1963) and the "Great Society" (1965-1968) were the themes back than. The acceleration of the Vietnam War was forefront in the minds of the public during that time.

    And in the 60s was the golden era of American made tube radios--Collins, Drake, Swan, Hallicrafters, Gonset, Clegg and Heathkit. Many hams got on the air with Heathkits--you built the radio on the metal chassis with the supplied electronic parts in the kit. You could repair a radio by replacing a defective tube back then. But today its all surface mount technology on boards; so when the multi-function radio goes south. It's a UPS shipment to the manufacturer for repair.

    You got your start in amateur radio by obtaining your "mail order" Novice or Technician Class license back then. Novice ticket was good for one year; non-renewable. It was possible to simultaneously to hold a Novice and Technician License--both available by "mail order". Most of the Technician licensees that could not master the 13 wpm code test for the General Class remained there.

    To pass the license exams; you needed a basic understanding of the material present since the ARRL License Manual only covered a generalization of the material that might be on the actual exam--not an exact Q&A format with today's study guides.

    You might say the 60s was the "golden age" of U.S. amateur radio. Sunspots were up; good dx contacts were made on 15 and 10 meters with relatively simple radio set-ups. Many of the high schools had amateur radio clubs within, and these students received their first exposure to amateur radio communications. It was primarily an HF hobby back then, however; there was AM phone activity from 145-147 mc with local hams chatting with each other.
  9. W8VIJ

    W8VIJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    He don't forget the preppers too! They fall into the same category.
    In this area we had a surge of them( just-in-case) too but I don't even know them because they never get on the air!
    I order to become somewhat proficient , these "just-in-case" hams need to get on the air once and awhile don't you think? Sure they are welcomed but good luck trying to get them on the air.
  10. WA7DU

    WA7DU Ham Member QRZ Page

    OK. Onomatopoeia ?

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