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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (KG4TEZ @ Mar. 06 2007,10:25)]I've got my go kit and it does not contain rope, flares, ladders, or radiation detectors. #I am not a wanna be. #I am an amateur (Professional) Communicator and that's what I do best. #

    I do carry spare radio's, batteries, and an extra antenna.

    Yes I am trained to assist but what I do best is communicate so that's where I'll utilize my skills so I don't give amateur radio a bad name.
    I do have my go kit. It does contain flairs and a lot more other stuff. As a matter of fact, there are 5 trucks set up as go kits and all contain from 1000 gal to 2000 gal of water, hoses and the works setting at the fire station.

    Let dispatch drop our tones and we have 15 to 50 persons responding to any emergency. We also have about 500 more firefighters in reserve at 12 other departments with their GO KITS ready to respond.

    Oh well, just thought I would say that

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ki4lzk @ Mar. 07 2007,01:30)]For those of you that aren't in the Public safety Industry, (Fire, EMS, Police, Rescue) You may not be aware of the National Incident Managment System. NIMS (http://www.fema.gov/emergency/nims/index.shtm) #Basically anyone that receives any sort of Federal Aid must be in compliance. #It isn't a very difficult concept. #Pretty much use plain language and know your place in a response of any size.
    According to 2 County Emergency Managers I discuss these things with have informed me that even Amateur Radio Operators that assist in emergency communications will have to be NIMS Certified.

    Home Land Security just hasn't gotten around to making it the rule yet.

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    "As a matter of fact, there are 5 trucks set up as go kits and all contain from 1000 gal to 2000 gal of water, hoses and the works setting at the fire station".


    TRANSLATION FOR THOSE NOT SPEAKING EMCOMM:

    "They have 5 fire trucks".


    Why do many emcomm types use hyper-jorgon-speak to make simple things (like fire trucks) sound far more complex ( "go trucks") then they really are?

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    I have Taken ICS 100,200,and 700 and it took all of maybe two hours. They are not that difficult and if you have any perception of the Incident Command System it will not be that difficult of a concept to grasp. The worst part, is that it is boring as sin.


    I agree that if ARES, RACES members are going to respond to an incident they should be required to take the NIMS classes as well. Heck a lot of places the Utility companies are already taking them. Like I said above they are not difficult courses. just dry.
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    RACES "should" be required to take ICS courses?

    Gee, I already thought it was a mandatory requirement?!

    After all, how can anyone possibly participate in an "incident" if they don't even understand who they are supposed to report to in the first place?

    How would they know or even understand the difference between the terms "unity of command" and "chain of command"?

    How would anyone participating in RACES even understand how the organized structure of the entire EOC response process works?

    Basically, they would be running around in circles bumping into one another if they didn't have any understanding of NIMS.

    However, I found some of the ICS modules contain the same boring and repetitive information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (kc8vwm @ Mar. 07 2007,18:57)]RACES "should" be required to take ICS courses?

    Gee, I already thought it was a mandatory requirement?!

    After all, how can anyone possibly participate in an "incident" if they don't even understand who they are supposed to report to in the first place?

    How would they know or even understand the difference between the terms "unity of command" and "chain of command"?

    How would anyone participating in RACES even understand how the organized structure of the entire EOC response process works?

    Basically, they would be running around in circles bumping into one another if they didn't have any understanding of NIMS.

    However, I found some of the ICS modules contain the same boring and repetitive information.

    73
    Hey I am not sure where the diffrent organizations stand on their policies and procedures I am in agreement with you that it just makes since and that fact that the courses are quite repetitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (W9WHE @ Mar. 07 2007,12:21)]"As a matter of fact, there are 5 trucks set up as go kits and all contain from 1000 gal to 2000 gal of water, hoses and the works setting at the fire station".


    TRANSLATION FOR THOSE NOT SPEAKING EMCOMM:

    "They have 5 fire trucks".


    Why do many emcomm types use hyper-jorgon-speak to make simple things (like fire trucks) sound far more complex ( "go trucks") then they really are?
    They most likely do not have just 5 fire trucks (ladders and aerials). #I am guessing a couple of them are fire engines. (pumpers). #There may be a tender in there too.
    Is that hyper-jorgon-speak enough for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (WA5BEN @ Mar. 05 2007,21:05)]All codes are banned. #Plain language is required.
    True for any/all JOINT operations. Individual departments may and do continue using their various 10 codes.
    Funny how this came about following Katrina but it must be noted the professional dispactchers' organization has been recommending this for many years. Oh..and don't forget the California Higway Patrol's 11 code.
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    This is, of course, bureaucrats "churning". They only hope to appear to be doing something. It simply buys time for further kickbacks and bribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (aa1mn @ Mar. 06 2007,08:01)]There are some states that reportedly currently have mobile scanning laws. #That is, it's illegal to have a scanner in your vechile. #If anyone has a list of the states having with such a ban I'd appreciate it.
    I know NY has laws against scanner usage (V&T section 397).

    A compiled list can be found here, amongst some other interesting stuff relating to scanner.

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