Yaesu's "overlooked" Dayton introduction - the FT-1D

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  1. N8MSA

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  2. W9DP

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    I think you have it backwards, Yaesu introduced yet another HT. How many different models have they sold in the past 10 years? 20? 30? Forlorn is appropriate, a digital radio that has no infrastructure to support it and since it is a HT, simplex is pretty limited too.
  3. WB9QVR

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    I don't think it was overlooked. I saw quite a few folks looking at it at Yaesu's booth. However, I think most people who might have been interested in the FT-1D lost that lost interest as soon as they learned that it wasn't compatible with D-Star, P25 or Mototrbo and that Yaesu was attempting to create yet another digital standard. Since there are no repeaters or other radios compatible with whatever protocol the FT-1D 'speaks' that would mean that it would be restricted to talking only to other FT-1Ds (or would have to be operated only in FM mode). Even if Yaesu's digital format turns out to be technically superior to those already in use it's going to be a very tough sell given the traction that the other formats have in the marketplace. Their marketing team will certainly have their work cut out for them in attempting to gain any level of acceptance for this new digital standard.
  4. NA0AA

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    Because we need another different digital mode? I really don't understand why the big 3-4-5 won't agree on a single digital standard to support, since it's clear that they can either live or die on this together, since I dont think many people are going to buy 3 different digital radios to be compatible, plus all the extra repeater pairs needed? Seems totally pointless to me. Now, if it operated in the same mode as Icom D-Star, wow, it would finally crack the market open just a hair.

    Sometimes the Japanese are such smart businessmen and then sometimes they can be so dumb....
  5. N0AZZ

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    I also fail to see why they all do not follow Icoms lead in the Digital market they have the infrastructure already in place around the world and it works FB. The others have failed to gather even a small market share and look at the WIRES failure from Yaesu and how many are tired of echo link.

    D-Star is the logical move for Yaesu and Kenwood it would be a win win for everyone involved including us as far as prices are concerned competition is a good thing. Plus with them all competing there could be even further strides made in the D-Star standard that is backward compatible. The nice thing about D-Star is you can get on the air for under $200 with a DV Dongle and D-Star radios are getting cheaper with newer models coming out.
  6. WC2F

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    I believe that is the main problem that is not compatible with all of the other digital modes... They need to set a standard like when the Blue-ray HD-dvd battle which Blue - Ray won...

    that way everyone can speak with everyone else only if you have the same type of radio can communicate...

    Miguel ad4y
  7. KA5S

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    Another Beta vs. VHS?

  8. WC4R

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    "The modulation used is what Yaesu describes as C4FM otherwise known as 4 level FSK or 4-FSK and is the same as that used for Digital PMR-446 equipment. 4-FSK has advantages over other types of digital modulation such as GMSK.

    Both ICOM and Kenwood have been producing 4-FSK equipment for the PMR market since 2007 so in some ways it's surprising that Yaesu beat them both in releasing an amateur version of 4-FSK."

    Maybe it is the other way around? I/K/Y/A need to follow this lead? Doesn't matter to me as most of the country does not have any need for (or access to) digital yet.
  9. K1LWI

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    Well think time for yaesu and icom and kenwood make real nice handeld tv
    cam so you can see the guy you talking too and see you think about time. Got all this stuff on my cell phone
    k1lwi wen 73 ar
  10. W8MXR

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    isn't the FT-1 a HF rig, released in about 1982.
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