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Why the ARRL Matters: Bob Inderbitzen NQ1R

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W1DED, Dec 19, 2023.

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  1. N5KX

    N5KX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Insomnia, neck and back pain, difficulty concentrating, trouble reading, blurry vision, head aches, eye fatigue, dry eyes, light sensitivity (listed in no particular order) all arising from society’s increased screen time. Shouldn’t this be part of the discussion, here ?
     
  2. K2ENF

    K2ENF Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Couple of thoughts on this threat.

    First, as regards print copies of qst, I point out to you that there's been a good deal of discussion in these threads as regards CQ magazine being on hold because of financial constraints.



    Does anybody watching the CQ magazine saga seriously believe that Newington isn't suffering that with the same problems CQ is?

    I see popular science for example has essentially folded because it can't keep up with the expenses any longer.

    A print magazine is an expensive proposition from the word go. Those expenses cut into other programs, programs that can better serve the amateur radio community.

    Most magazines are in the business solely of selling magazines. For good or ill that's not the case for the ARRL. The other publications that are going bye-bye don't have the choice of what hill to die on it's the only Hill they have.

    So, is qst to be the hill that the league dies on? In that context of their decision becomes much more understandable and frankly, supportable.

    All that said, here is where I become more critical of the league.

    More than one respondent to this thread as remarked on the idea of the league representing its members. That's all well and good, but who represents the majority of amateurs here in the states who are not League members?

    I have said it before, I will say it again. If you want to bring new membership in make sure the people that you want to bring in are also on the list of people that you actually represent. Convince those people that they're interests are being heard and represented. In other words, show them some value for the money that you're asking them to invest. That means the league spending time on larger issues than whether or not the life membership is still getting its qst every month in the mail.
     
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  3. W9BRD

    W9BRD Ham Member QRZ Page

    No.
     
  4. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    You know something I don't? No booze here-)
    Kefir--that's the ticket.

    HNY and support the ARRL in 2024:) Hope that's sobering:)
     
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  5. W5ESE

    W5ESE Ham Member QRZ Page

    I agree 100%.

    The right thing to do would have been to inaugurate the membership increase and surcharge on the printed magazine for new and renewing subscriptions after an announced date; not removing a benefit already paid for (after first checking with counsel that we can get away with stiffing members out of an expected benefit and assuring ourselves they have no legal recourse).

    I'm a longtime life member; not my ox being gored (yet), but I can understand others' fury.

    This is going to cost them far, far more than they will save.
     
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  6. W1VT

    W1VT Ham Member QRZ Page

    American business practices put short term issues like paying payroll ahead of long term gains. Lots of businesses go out of business because they simply run out of cash.

    When doing a major transition it is better to do it while you still have cash flow than waiting until it is too late.

    The needs of older long term members and the new members they wish to attract are clearly different. One can also predict that the expected revenue from each in the future is also clearly different.
    There are lots of reasons older members drop out of the hobby that the ARRL simply can't fix.
     
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  7. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Hey Chip, I am a tee-toller myself. Alcohol and drugs don't solve problems but creates many more. Yes, I am an ARRL member and can easily afford the dues increase. I like perusing QST and the many ARRL publications I have purchased. More so; I will renew membership in the League when it expires in 2025. You are very passionate about the ARRL and their overall functions but as with any other organization--the league is froth with difficulties, shortcomings and involvements. I view amateur radio as a form of entertainment: if it exists, that's fine--if not-- that's fine too.IMHO, one day in the distant future: this niche hobby of ours will cease to exist. Life is all about doing things while you can AND when you can.
     
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  8. W2AI

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    I understand their fury as well. Particularly when it comes down to seniors with a limited income. You know over 60% of the adult population literally lives "paycheck to Paycheck".
     
  9. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well, not exactly.

    Everyone forecasts. Of course that's like pulling teeth out of a piranha sometimes, when the customers (some of them) are clueless.

    ARRL is somewhat different from many enterprises because it gets its money upfront (from memberships) rather than on terms.

    What's happening big time these days is customers are stiffing on payments, or delaying beyond reason. That creates the biggest cash flow issues in 2023/24 for many companies. Not short term income per se;-)

    HNY Zac!

    Chip W1YW
     
  10. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Nope.

    I am not passionate about anything --that is better served by fact and reason:)

    I am concerned that **some** folks are taking a strange pleasure in trying to take the ARRL out of existence, and trying to use targetting of individuals as a tool for same. That's what some of the comments on the Zed, in the last year or so, look like to me. Your opinion may differ.

    Not referring to disgreements nor critiques. I mean down in the wool destructive intent. It's there by some, IMO.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  11. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    "fact and reason" is determined by the beholder as he/she subjectively interprets it. That is human nature.
    WHY is that?? Why do you care what others post on this forum?? Do they pay your bills?? Nope, I didn't think so. Remember amateur radio is a hobby and NOT a way of life as some might portray it to be. Just look at this forum as a source of comical entertainment and an insight into the human psyche.
     
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  12. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    I agree with your assessment. The dues hike was poorly planned and ill-conceived. My recommendation in the ARRL membership on-line survey was to keep the current dues rate intact for those who opt for a digital subscription but raise the dues for those wanting a hardcopy of QST magazine mailed to them. Out of some odd 160000 ARRL members; only 12000 bothered to complete the survey. Generally speaking, apathy equates to disinterest.
     
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  13. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    In today's society; you'll pay more and get less.
     
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  14. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why do I care?

    Well, read my bio.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
  15. AI6XK

    AI6XK Ham Member QRZ Page

    call it what you want, but I will NOT become a member again, until they bring back the Senior Discount!
     

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