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Tech license upgrade to General

Discussion in 'QRZ Site Community Help Center' started by N3EMH, Apr 7, 2025.

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  1. N3EMH

    N3EMH Ham Member QRZ Page

    My tech license was granted in 1985 on Jul 9. I don't have the paper copy any more. I was wondering if I would be able to use this as proof to upgrade to a General license. It is from this same website, QRZ.com. Does any one know?

    Thanks
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    Last edited: Apr 7, 2025
  2. KX0DW

    KX0DW QRZ Lifetime Member #212 Volunteer Moderator Volunteer DX Helper Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    QRZ is not official and the FCC/VEs won't accept it -- or at least SHOULDN'T accept it -- as proof of anything.

    All you need to do is download your license from the ULS and present it and you'll be good to go.
     
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  3. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Maybe. But you can find a call book online that shows you being licensed as a tech in 1986 and that should be sufficient for most VE teams. But check with them.
     
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  4. N3EMH

    N3EMH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ok, thanks. ULS doesn't show anything for my license back that far.

    I appreciate the quick response. I'll look for a call book.

    They show this:

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  5. N3EMH

    N3EMH Ham Member QRZ Page

  6. KA0HCP

    KA0HCP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Prior Tech licensing does not confer any privilege to automatically upgrade to General. A Tech is a Tech regardless of whether the exams were the same. Break out the books and brush up for the exam!
     
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  7. KL5IA

    KL5IA Ham Member QRZ Page

    If he was a Tech Plus licensed under the old system prior to March 1st, 1987, he has already passed the General test and it does confer privilege to upgrade with just application and fees
     
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  8. K8PG

    K8PG QRZ Lifetime Member #333 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    HE NEEDS TO PROVE IT .

    K8PG Paul
     
  9. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not so. If he took the test before March 1987, he is eligible for an update to general. He can prove it by a copy of the page from an old call book from 1986. These are available online. The VE team that does the paperwork needs to be satisfied with his proof. Most VE teams will accept the call book as evidence. Has been this way for many, many years.
     
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  10. AC0GT

    AC0GT Ham Member QRZ Page

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  11. N3RYB

    N3RYB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Perhaps from multiple other sources, like the 1993 QRZ Callbook: https://www.qrz.com/db1993/?callsign=N3EMH
    While not official, multiple unrelated sources, sure should!
     
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  12. W9YW

    W9YW Moderator Emeritus QRZ Page

    There are services, like the ARRL and W5YI that could take up the case and make a ruling. Their knowledge of the rules should help establish if or not, the upgrade is available. It takes a lot of evidence that they can stand behind as valid, or not.

    73 Tom W9YW
     
  13. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    The call book evidence has been accepted for years as a valid source. This isn't difficult, you just need to be sure your VE team understands the rule. You don't need a bunch of other stuff, really.

    https://www.arrl.org/technician-class-survivor-challenge
     
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  14. K2CD

    K2CD Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    @N3EMH
    John. Here is your listing from the 1986 RAC. As a former VE team manager, we accepted this as evidence of former license holder status for element credit. We forwarded it to the ARRL VEC. Print it and take it to a session. You might want to contact the team in advance, and or the ARRL VEC: Maria Somma, AB1FM VEC Manager (860) 594-0300 or email vec@arrl.org.

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