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NF0A Ham Member QRZ Page

Ho hummm.

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NF0A, May 7, 2010

#196
NF0A Ham Member QRZ Page

ISTR -IMO??? Textese???

KA5S said: ↑

ISTR that our "licenses" reside in electronic form in the FCC database, nor are they canceled unless and until removed from that database as having been.

Which fine point would IMO only tempt THAT Amateur to get on the air again and repeat her misdeeds.

Cortland
KA5S
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Case closed...

NF0A, May 7, 2010

#197
K7SU Ham Member QRZ Page

Wacko

Looks like her attorney's suggested she get rid of anything that could be used against her in court. All her QRZ stuff has been deleted as of May 3rd, with the exception of her call and address. I don't know why these wacko's don't just play in their own little sandbox in their back yard and leave the rest of us alone!

K7SU

K7SU, May 8, 2010

#198
AC0UU Ham Member QRZ Page

W5HTW said: ↑

Lee, first of all, only about half of that 700,000 is in any way active. A good many of them joined amateur radio during the "keep in touch with wifey-FRS" days, and, though they may have renewed their licenses, they don't own a radio and have no interest in it at all. Many others were 'fooled' by ARRL recruitment pamphlets showing the Icom 756 and the tower and beam, about working DX, and when they got the HT and found they were still doing CB just on two meters, they got bored and dropped out. No DX there. Many got the license only because hubby pushed them. One guy on here bragged (??) his wife had held a ticket 12 years and had never transmitted.

Those are what about 300,000 "hams" are today. Totally inactive, probably don't remember their call signs.

Of course a few thousand got recruited into the "you can save the world" picture. But they have strapped on the HT and badge and walked around for years, and there just aren't enough emergencies to keep them excited. So they, too, put the HT in the drawer and forgot about it.

The result is there may be about 350,000 hams to actually, at some point during the year, turn on a radio. Some very rarely, and some very actively, chasing DX, ragchewing, hunting certificates, and the like.

Nearly half of those 700,000, though, are just license holders. They aren't hams.

Looking back, concerning criminals with ham licenses. I've been in this a very long time. For many, many years, the FCC license form required one to state whether he or she had ever been arrested for a felony. Civil rights issues caused that to be removed. But there were many years where a felon could not obtain a ham license. It is true, though, a person could get a ham license and then commit a felony. If the FCC found out about it, the license would go to an ALJ and would probably be revoked.

Another point. Most of the deliberate interference by the very few, percentage wise, hams, was against other hams, even in the 50s and 60s, and well into the 70s. There were virtually no cases of hams interfering with police, aviation, military, fire, etc. And actually there were very few cases of deliberate interference to other hams as well, for the FCC had teeth back then and would indeed pursue the matter. A case in point was W2OY, who was often the subject of FCC action, though I don't believe his license was ever suspended. The simple matter, though, that everyone remembers from that era him, shows how few there were to remember! He was one of perhaps five notorious hams in the 60s. Nationwide.

Finally, there were some major changes in amateur radio in the 1980s. First, the VE program, which initially was a buddy system. Every dreamy CBer in the country, who had a ham pal, was saying "Hey, gimme a license and I'll fix the carb on your car." And it worked. A lot of money passed under the table. And those hams who got their tickets that way are today's Old Timers, the role models we hear.

The FCC cracked down on the VE buddy system after just a couple of years, and it became far more honest. Even today the FCC does occasional recalls from suspect sessions. The system still occasionally has problems, and this gal from California may be the result of such. I doubt she has the smarts to really pass any kind of test, other than being able to stand up. But maybe. California and Puerto Rico have continued to have their share of dishonest VE sessions, though the rest of the country seems to be much better.

The other major change was the move to recruit hams solely for EMCOM purposes, not seeking any interest whatsoever in amateur radio. This has so badly corrupted the hobby it will never recover, and now we are moving toward making it far, far worse, with the AHA and other drills.

Beginning in the late 1990s, we began the "save your city" promotion. But prior to that time, Lee, in my then 45 years in the hobby, I never met even ONE ham, not ONE, that had joined ham radio just to do emergency communications. They got into amateur radio because it was an interesting hobby, semi-technical, a chance to play with radios. It was fun. Not ONE of them got into the hobby to be a hero.

Yet they helped. As did I. It was part OF the hobby, not the FOCUS of the hobby. We pitched in and supplied support communications during floods and other disasters. No one joined amateur radio to participate in the emergency communications following the 1964 Alaska earthquake. Hams, already licensed, did that work, when all other communications was down.

I helped in floods, in tornado spotting, and in other severe weather. I also participated in walkathons, such as the March of Dimes, the Heart Foundation, and the Kidney Foundation. But those were a part of amateur radio, not the reason FOR amateur radio.

When EMCOM became the reason for a ham license, we lost the real amateur radio. It is gone. It has become a quasi-Part 90 system, and will get worse as the House Bill forces congress to review amateur radio as a support function of "DHS Initiatives." What the hell is a DHS initiative?? It has nothing at all to do with amateur radio. It might be border patrol, or drug interdiction, or airport security. None of those fall under Part 97 radio.

Yet that is where we are headed with this hobby, to be an extension of the federal goverment communications system.

I don't think our course can be changed. We are steaming toward the rocks of the reef that will today end amateur radio, and DHS/ARRL is at the helm.

Ed
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Aboslutely AGREE with Ed on this! Three cheers for someone finally understanding the whole concept! I quoted the complete post because I felt it needed to be repeated. This IS the problem with ham radio. It's not code or no-code, it's not criminals getting involved with ham radio, and it's not the dumbing down of the test (at least not too much). It's the ARRL's initiative to turn ham radio into something totally different. It's about the creating a boater's email system and then getting DHS involved with us. It's about the ARRL's insistence that THEY need more paying members so we'll start a big push into EMCOM! This is what's happening to ham radio today and as Ed stated, I don't see how it can be reversed now without eliminating the VE program and the question pool. Back in the day, it took a little work to get a license and you had to study and fully understand the concept of the operation of a radio - both inside and out.

There are far too many hans who cannot even calculate the length of a half-wave dipole. How do you get a license without that common knowledge? Hell, it's even a question on the test!

Ok, I'm done with my soapbox - next!

Steve

AC0UU, May 8, 2010

#199
WA6ITF Ham Member QRZ Page

Here is a link to a news story with the latest development in this case:

http://www.mydesert.com/article/201.../1026/news12/Radio-operator-pleads-not-guilty

WA6ITF, May 8, 2010

#200
KC2VVJ Ham Member QRZ Page

Hmmm

Sounds like a CB-er obtaining their ticket for the sheer joy of provoking her Federal Free Ride ticket in prison.

KC2VVJ, May 8, 2010

#201
KC8VWM Ham Member QRZ Page

Audio recordings:

http://www.kesq.com/news/23433878/detail.html

KC8VWM, May 9, 2010

#202
W6MQI Ham Member QRZ Page

AB8YY said: ↑

Aboslutely AGREE with Ed on this! Three cheers for someone finally understanding the whole concept! I quoted the complete post because I felt it needed to be repeated. This IS the problem with ham radio. It's not code or no-code, it's not criminals getting involved with ham radio, and it's not the dumbing down of the test (at least not too much). It's the ARRL's initiative to turn ham radio into something totally different. It's about the creating a boater's email system and then getting DHS involved with us. It's about the ARRL's insistence that THEY need more paying members so we'll start a big push into EMCOM! This is what's happening to ham radio today and as Ed stated, I don't see how it can be reversed now without eliminating the VE program and the question pool. Back in the day, it took a little work to get a license and you had to study and fully understand the concept of the operation of a radio - both inside and out.

There are far too many hans who cannot even calculate the length of a half-wave dipole. How do you get a license without that common knowledge? Hell, it's even a question on the test!

Ok, I'm done with my soapbox - next!

Steve
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I'm NEXT
I agree too Steve the whole thing is a complete joke anymore. I'll probably give it a few more years then bail out about the time when all one has to do is send in there $10.00 and presto! your an amateur extra no testing involved. It's unfortunate, but the whole country is headed the same way right down the proverbial toilet.

73 Dave

W6MQI, May 9, 2010

#203
KB1LID Ham Member QRZ Page

KC8VWM said: ↑

Audio recordings:

http://www.kesq.com/news/23433878/detail.html
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That's disturbing.

KB1LID, May 9, 2010

#204
DJ2MBA Ham Member QRZ Page

Deceptions and menaces(threats) are also avenged here with resumption.But I can´t belive that really ....in as much as no responsible licence operator does using the mistreatments.Therefor to reach licence is difficult enough in Germany anyway.Ought it better that the judgement in USA may be to condone her mitake in her behaviour?

I think an transmitting deprivation KJ6CEY´s for more month might be sufficiently enough.Does´nt it ? But a decision for arresting with a prison ?
Don´t know if it´s the right convict.

Anyway not here in DL in will punishments so strong.Vy 73[/QUOTE]

DJ2MBA, May 9, 2010

#205
N1DVJ Ham Member QRZ Page

W6MQI said: ↑

I'm NEXT
I agree too Steve the whole thing is a complete joke anymore. I'll probably give it a few more years then bail out about the time when all one has to do is send in there $10.00 and presto! your an amateur extra no testing involved. It's unfortunate, but the whole country is headed the same way right down the proverbial toilet.

73 Dave
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Whine whine whine...

I'm sick of the little babies that feel that every transgression by newbies is the beginning of the end for ham radio.

Hey, this woman ain't right. But how about stopping the whine.

I'M SICK OF HEARING IT!!

N1DVJ, May 10, 2010

#206
KA9MOT Ham Member QRZ Page

N1DVJ said: ↑

Whine whine whine...

I'm sick of the little babies that feel that every transgression by newbies is the beginning of the end for ham radio.

Hey, this woman ain't right. But how about stopping the whine.

I'M SICK OF HEARING IT!!
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I'm with you, but whining about the whining isn't going to help any. I just ignore the Elitist attitudes.....Usually.

The only place on the radio I ever heard it was on 10M and that Elitist proved a LID also as he refused to ID. Also heard it on 75M one night when a Net Control Station went on a no code/appliance operator rant because somebody tuned up on frequency. I still haven't figured out he knew the tuner upper was a no code appliance operator.

KA9MOT, May 10, 2010

#207
WA8LGM Ham Member QRZ Page

The old ARRL woufhoung, hmmmmmmm.....

Time to get out the old Woufhoung and the Rettysnitch. Seems like she's a good prospect for those old mythical punishments. Hey! anyone got a good old piece of rope?

WA8LGM, May 10, 2010

#208
WA8LGM Ham Member QRZ Page

Famous last words

famous criminal last words, "You'll never catch me! I'm too smart for you idiots!"

WA8LGM, May 10, 2010

#209
W6MQI Ham Member QRZ Page

N1DVJ said: ↑

Whine whine whine...

I'm sick of the little babies that feel that every transgression by newbies is the beginning of the end for ham radio.

Hey, this woman ain't right. But how about stopping the whine.

I'M SICK OF HEARING IT!!
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I’M SICK OF HEARING IT TOO!! Some people can't seem to handle the truth that the licensing of hams has become one big welfare hand out. So there bitch and complain as much as you want (I’m sure you will) it’s the truth.

W6MQI, May 11, 2010

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