QRZ Warned by the FCC

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by AA7BQ, Jul 10, 2008.

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  1. KC4RAN

    KC4RAN Ham Member QRZ Page

    When's the last time you saw a truck stop selling a TS-50?
  2. K8GVK

    K8GVK Guest

    Fred, N2RJ pretty much states the majority position....take his advice and lets follow the spirit of the law (rules).....
  3. KA5S

    KA5S Ham Member QRZ Page

    Or even a FEMA trailer!

  4. KI6USW

    KI6USW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I usually find myself agreeing with you in most of your posts. You are a Ham that has vast experience with equipment and have intimate knowledge of the subject. I have learned a great deal form you - sir. But in this case, I must disagree with you. Simply put - it is not the fault of the seller or they buyer. We are now talking about deep-rooted legal issues for which this gov't has improperly managed.

    One needs to go back to sqaure one in this whole issue. The US Gov't collected import duties on these radios. They have allowed them in to this country. They have let the genie out of the bottle. Now - they are going to collect fines and penalties for those who own them and distribute them in the US? Isn't that just a little bit hypocritical of them? Haven't they - by default - created this entire problem? Are we to be penalized by their own fault? It is so! It is time to make them (&%$#) - or get off of the pot!

    It still comes down to the individaul user of this equipment - like the 'export class' radio. Does he/she use them on 10m? Should a radio - like the Yaesu FT-101E be banned for 11m ease of conversion? Or maybe the FT-897? Or others that I won't list here - because that list would become too large to list here? Where would one draw the line? Certainly - the gov't has created this problem - and now they want to balance this on the back of the common US citizen that has become a pawn? So that they can collect penalties where before they had no way of doing it before. Yes - it is hypocritical. And more. It is a conspiracy - in a sense - against the American people. Or poor legislation that has yet to be corrected...

    The FCC actually goes after large businesses more than private individuals. Why? Because they can collect more money from a corporation than they could possibly do with a private citizen. Something about blood from a turnip. But that doesn't mean that they don't - or won't. They opened this can of worms, and now they are going to have to answer for it. Where is the wheels of the sytem going to run over next - unchecked? And not balance the difference on the back of its citizens. The US needs radio operators. It is a part of the citizens to organize and protect this country - even against its own govt - if necessary. As the Constitution provides in case it is no longer living up to its agreement with the American people.

    Now - I'll sit down and shut up and watch the feathers fly!!!
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2009
  5. N6AQ

    N6AQ Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I just don't think QRZ made a large enough contribution to the current administration. If you guys were Chicago mobsters you could do what ever you wanted.
  6. KC8TYK

    KC8TYK Guest

    outlaw rigs

    Just my 2 cents worth, Ham gear can be modified to transmit out of band easy. If you want it just call up AES, HRO, R&L or anyone who sells gear and give them your card number and whalla it will be on its way to your front door. Just ask all the bear hunters here in WV. I've seen more ham gear at the flea market sold as modified CB gear than I care talk about.

    We have loggers on tv based out of maine with ham gear in there trucks not using callsigns, Truck drivers around WV here doing the same thing and alot of them have better gear than I can afford. I've seen 756ProIII's mounted in Pickup trucks. Approach them and tell them its a felony they will laugh at you and tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. And when you ask them where they got it, Called up ham store gave them credit card and within a few days they have it.

    Doesn't matter, if you got a dollar and want something someone will sell it
    to you. The saleman at the store who works on commision don't care about who bought the rig just how much thats going to add to his paycheck.
    Be a profitable employee or you don't have a job seems to me thats the way the world is going. Just my veiw. Tim/Kc8tyk
  7. N0UN

    N0UN XML Subscriber QRZ Page


    The "rat" was 'prolly the guy who asked for my "20" on 14.226 last night.


  8. KE5KCN

    KE5KCN Ham Member QRZ Page


    if the fcc wants to catch people illegally operating high power on 11 meters, they need to go to http://bigradios.com. i would think anyone in a suburban with 8 alternators and 75kw in the back and an antenna to handle it would be easy to spot
  9. W0GI

    W0GI Ham Member QRZ Page

    Government bureaucrats don't care above solving a problem, only convincing people that they are going to solve the problem, with illogical BS.

    Busting enough people and attaching huge fines would solve the problem, but instead, they pick a few junk radios, and ban them. If every one of the banned radios disappeared today, they would be replaced by a different radio not banned, and then modified.

    The fact is, HRO sold a lot of the Ranger radios years ago as 10 meter mobile rigs. Now a Ham is a bad guy to sell it because it could be used out of the ham bands. Well, most every radio I have seen, can be used outside the ham bands.

    This has been beat to death, but it does point to why the government should stay out of our healthcare. Logic and government bureaucrats are like oil and water. They don't mix. :)
  10. N8YX

    N8YX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Have they?

    Seems to me that whiskey was "bootlegged" during Prohibition. Perhaps the same is occurring in the case of so-called 'export' radio equipment. After the list of banned equipment was released a few years back, it would be interesting to see just how much of it is being stopped at ports of entry by Customs.

    One could always arrange piecemeal drop-shipment from a manufacturer in a foreign country to the buyer, but when the IRS and Customs eventually nail all parties involved for tariff evasion...

    None of your Yaesus fit the so-called "dual use" criteria:

    1) Channelized operation;
    2) Easy to convert to 11M.

    For that reason, they may be marketed as they've not been purposefully designed to operate as a CB rig.

    By this line of logic, it is the government's fault that your car will do 120MPH in a school zone...and they're to blame when you are arrested for it...?

    No, it is because a corporation's culpability in the commission of a crime is viewed as greater than that of Joe Consumer, as the potential damage inflicted to society as a whole by a corporation is much larger. This is why the onus of enforcement is directed against the drug trafficker, for example, not the user.

    ...who understand the rules and regulations of the service they operate within, and don't break same...

    This statement smacks of sedition and has little (if anything) to do with the topic at hand.

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