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Legal obstacle removed to open Titanic, retrieve Marconi radio

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W0PV, May 20, 2020.

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  1. M3ZKB

    M3ZKB Ham Member QRZ Page

    it wasnt the radio that sunk her, it was the steel used, had too much silocone in it which made it very brittle when in freezing water, also there was the fire in the coal bunker which weakened the hull
     
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  2. KK6ZHJ

    KK6ZHJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Grave robbing? Like taking the personal possessions off the dead? Was it normal to be buried with Marconi radio in those days?
     
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  3. ZL4IV

    ZL4IV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Photo used has been doctored, 4th funnel was fake so why the smoke? Good example of 'don't believe everything on the internet'.
     
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  4. M7VXR

    M7VXR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Would be a good item to put on display on Marconi Day (his birthday April 25th 1874) in years to come, assuming they can retrieve it intact, it may just crumble away to dust when it is removed from the wall. When retrieved (if possible) it should be put on display at the old Marconi Receiving station in Tywyn,Wales, UK.
     
  5. MW1CFN

    MW1CFN Ham Member QRZ Page

    There was a lot of pressure on the line to reduce costs and get the Titanic on the water fast. The poor steel succumbed to the coal fire that had been burning since before Titanic set sail much quicker as a result. Only one factor amongst many that led to the disaster.
     
  6. JF1IRQ

    JF1IRQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    今夜、ハイボールを飲む
    タイタニックの映画をもう一度見てみましょう。
    新しい発見があるかもしれません。

    73
    日本からJF1IRQによって。
     

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  7. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    See?

    SOME artifacts are extremely well preserved....

    ;-)
     
  8. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    John,

    RE: the author reference...

    There is no evidence that 'hams' interfered with the ability to save the Titanic. Indeed, Sarnoff, both an amateur and paid Marconi operator, was one of many who worked the rescue (post sinking)situation from New York and demonstrated the true value of wireless in emergency situations.

    Was there interference by amateurs on transmissions of news media reports? Unknown, but not the same as the actual effort to save passengers.

    Wireless was unreliable, period. Interference by amateurs in 1912 was highly local--20-50 miles--and hams could not have interfered with any ship to ship Titanic communication (or attempt for it). Most amateurs were actually LISTENERS, as Sarnoff clearly demonstrates.

    It is likely,as often reported, the the radio ops on those other ships were just asleep. No ham interference to invoke.

    The assertion that there were 'fewer amateurs after the Titanic' is exactly the opposite of what happened. It appears the author is confusing regulation of wireless and the Navy's asserted tone to dissolve the amateurs that he is referring to.

    DeForest's early efforts at broadcast was the pivot point that prevented the Navy from subsuming all wireless. Broadcast saved wireless. Armstrong's superregenerative circuit enabled it, along with change to the 'continuous wave'.

    Ship to ship wireless was dramatically improved as receivers became more sensitive, frequencies went up, systems became higher Q and continuous wave.

    Amateurs were saved by Congress through the effort of the Junior Wireless Club--now the Radio Club of America.

    Yep. We were saved by a bunch of kids. The actions of those kids enabled 100+ years of telecom and elcctronics pioneers, Nobel Prize winners and major industrial firms.

    Yes, and even 'hobby' style operation by millions of others;-)
     
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  9. N9EVD

    N9EVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    I wonder how long it took them to think up this lame attempt to link this expedition to recover the Marconi radio to the current situation? I am guessing they must be doing this to get there hands on as much of our money as possible to fund their business. Isn't there better things to do with our tax dollars right now?
     
  10. KB8HSB

    KB8HSB Ham Member QRZ Page

    YES BRING IT UP IT JUST GOING TO RUST AWAY AND BE GONE FOREVER
     
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  11. N9EVD

    N9EVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sure, bring it up, but don't lie to everyone linking it to the current situation.
     
  12. PY1KZ

    PY1KZ Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    If so, post a good picture of the TITANIC Radio Room. It will definitely cost much less.
     

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  13. K8ERV

    K8ERV QRZ Member QRZ Page

    Did someone call?

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
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  14. PY1KZ

    PY1KZ Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Take a look at this text bellow extracted from the article published on the following website:

    https://www.arcadiapublishing.com/N...April-2018/How-Amateur-Radio-Sunk-the-Titanic


    "This focus on telegrams led to the first of many mistakes by the Marconi operators, as they ignored several warnings of ice, failing to deliver them to the bridge for review. Their negligence was complicated further by the fierce competitive nature of their position’s – in 1912, Marconi nearly held a monopoly over the radio industry, and there was an intense rivalry with their main competitor Telefunken. As a result, even after the Titanic had begun issuing distress signals, some Telefunken operators who answered were told to “keep out” by Phillips, who refused to deal with his company’s competition. As a result, while the radio could have helped to prevent the tragedy outright, it instead only helped to save a small portion of those onboard the ship."

    Why is Telefunken not responsible for this?
     
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  15. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    The RCA rocks! :)

    But the op's on the Titanic were hardly OM's either. Phillips was age 25 and Bride, the survivor, only 22. Perhaps their "youthful playfulness", portrayed in recounts and performances, was misplaced at a moment where serious protocol and professional discipline was more in order. Here is the tale of the latter.

    This was somewhat illustrated in a deleted scene from the Titanic film.



     
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