Foundations of Amateur Radio - Episode 110

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by VK6FLAB, Jul 15, 2017.

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  1. OH2FFY

    OH2FFY Ham Member QRZ Page

    There's ya problems right there.


    gregW:) OH2FFY
     
  2. N8DAH

    N8DAH Ham Member QRZ Page

    I just can't agree with the OT's....was a tech a long time, built most of my station, learning cw. I am now general and still build most of my station. I have help but I am self taught. All my antennas I built, all my tuners I built, all my amps I built, all my keyers I built, heck I even built my key. I think you get the idea.

    I am a young ham at 33 and enjoy the hobby. I agree 100% that our system is way out of date.

    We have questions on the pool that just don't have a place anymore....tubes for example...As a ham you have to go out of your way and spend big bucks to even get into tubes, pretty much zero new gear with any tubes....some might think that its still usefull but its not.

    The old vs the new is nothing new, but I have never seen a more stuborn group of OM in my life compared to hams. Its about time we bring in new technology and allow the hobby to grow instead of being locked in a rut.


    Just my 2 pennys.

    73
    David
     
  3. N7KO

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    Sounds like you just want donations , we are not CB errs maybe you are posting on the wrong site, I am not a electronic whiz but I have put together some kits and I know what resistors do and caps etc.. I have built several usable antennas. I was into CBs in the late 60s and early 70s, I remember what happened when licensing was dropped, it was total chaos.

    There is nothing wrong with the Ham Radio Licensing system as it is now, I do think dropping Code was a mistake, I was unlicensed when they dropped code and that dropping of code did make getting my first ticket easer and only until recently I have taken up code.

    Dropping code, well it think we started down a wrong path. If you do not like to experiment and do not like building with your hands and do not like taking up challenges like Code and do not like earning your way, maybe this is not hobby for you. This is one of those things that the more you work at it the more you get out of it. 73
     
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  4. WI4WD

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    Ok I agree with dropping the code test. I believe if we had not dropped code from the test there would be only old hams left and the FCC would have reallocated the frequencies. On the other hand I do not agree with doing away with a test and going to a pay to operate system. We should make the test more applicable to what is being done now. Digital modes etc... Maybe some PC hardware and programming questions. We need to move and change with the times but dumbing down amateur radio operators will also be the beginning of the end.
     
  5. OH2FFY

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    Bull , ALL countries that comply to AOCP have digital mode questions in the pool for standard and full license tests.

    More bull --
    Allowable power , modes and frequencies are all privileges that are earned through higher learning and tests passed.
    You seem to be simplifying matters to minimize the differences in order to make the difference seem irrelevant.



    There is another problem.
    In order to bring in numbers , Ham Radio has been marketed to appeal to other 'types' of radio hobbyists.
    Storm spotters , contesters , preppers , rag chewers and ugg - CBers.
    In order to make things easier for people to obtain licenses introductory classes were added in some countries - Foundation and Technician.

    All that these lower classes have done is bring in more people that are not so interested in radio electronics.
    A large percentage of these people will not advance , they will not upgrade or even be bothered to learn more ,, and Why ?, because they already have all that they want.
    They have peaked at a low level , and they don't really care.

    For the most part these people will not become the mentors and elmers of tomorrow.
    They are at the end of the education cycle.

    They are consumers , not contributers.


    Not all countries have a requirement to learn the resistor color code.
    Obviously though it seems that the licensing authorities in Oz feel the need that Hams should know at least the very basics of construction.
    I personally think they should expect more and make testing for all classes tougher.


    You seem to be quite hung up on resistor color codes.

    There is a BIG difference between being able to make a Oscillator and simply powering up a pre-built DDS module or chip.
    One requires that you know what you are doing , and the other doesn't.

    Being able to identify various circuits is just the regulatory bodies way of slowing down the appliance operator way of thinking.
    A type of mentality which will destroy Ham Radio and in turn turn the whole thing into High Power CB.


    As a person holding a beginners class license , isn't it possible that you indeed have been doing it wrong , and those people that have mentioned it have been correct ??

    When people recently passing their car drivers test and have little on the road skill , I would say that it is likely that they still do things wrong , but are completely oblivious to their mistakes.

    So I would say that it is most likely that when a experienced Ham points out a mistake by a F call ---- he is probably right and the F Op is wrong.


    I seriously doubt your statement that you are derided for having enthusiasm ,, personally I think that is just BS.

    I say that F calls are anticipating rejection by Ops of other classes , so you take every criticism as being an attack against your lower class license.


    The Foundation class was not designed to be a class to stay with , it was designed as a stepping stone into other - higher classes.
    You SHOULD upgrade.

    Foundation isn't the destination , it is the begging.

    If F class or Techs's can't grasp that concept , then they have missed the WHOLE REASON why the class of license was created.


    There is a good explanation for that.
    Mercedes are well designed , safe , and offer good value for money.
    Holden's on the other hand are complete SHIT , made with backward technology , marketed for people with low expectations and/or the lack of knowledge to know a good car even if it fell on their head.
    They are so backward that they are unable to be sold in Europe , as they don't comply to safety or emission standards.

    If it were not for the governments heavy taxes against Euro imports , the Oz automobile industry would have died in the 70's.



    There are many facets to Ham Radio ,, and not all of them require being glued to the dial every day like an obsessed freak.
    I am a VERY active Ham but I get on their air about 1 day a month.

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    The reality is that while Technician and Foundations class licenses have increased licensee numbers , they have FAILED to improve the numbers of Hams that will be around to create the next generation of Hams.


    gregW:) OH2FFY
     
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  6. WA3CAS

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    Isn't it true that the impedance of a half-wave dipole at its resonant frequency is around 73 ohms? If so, a 75 ohm cable should work just fine.
     
  7. VK4HAT

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    When it came to learning CW which is what the statement you quoted me on was about, for sure, I was doing it all wrong. But in the absence of a suitable mentor, that is to be expected and the group of people doing the criticising had all been given the opportunity to offer and impart their wisdom, they chose not to, but criticise me after the fact because I did not do it their way.
     
  8. K3LI

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    A retesting of all ham operators will be required. You must be able to type a coherent sentence with proper punctuation. Failure to do so will mean revocation of typing privileges.
     
  9. KC8WIK

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    Well, perhaps I am confused about all this foundation license stuff. The way I see the market is those guys got more with their introductory license than we do.
    http://www.wia.org.au/licenses/foundation/about/
    Technician here is not as liberal for allocations.
    I did my Novice, Technician, and because of my morse code a Tech Plus, later I went to General, then Extra. Most of the modes and frequencies for that earlier license were not available.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2017
  10. KC8WIK

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    Perhaps the author is not complaining about the allocations, I must admit repetitive fees for license holding is archaic.
     

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