This is because of opinion over substance, like peoples opinions matter. This is how it is, deal with it, is not a valid argument and for a technically minded hobby that thinks of itself as one that advances technology, or is at the cutting edge of technology, when it comes to discussion of license conditions and making them relevant for today, the ultra conservatives come out in force with their tough titties attitudes. By all means destroy Onno's argument if its invalid, or mine for that matter, because i have yet to have a single person explain or argue why learning the resistor colour code is relevant for obtaining a std class license. The attitude of OM VK2OZ is a rather typical one that I have encountered. There are no elmers here where I live, the older generation of hams are all pretty much like this with their I have no time for fcalls or no interest in sharing their time and knowledge. There is so much I could say on that topic but I will bite my tongue, because there is no way to express it politely, suffice to say, that every step of the way, those same "experts" have been telling me how I am doing it all wrong and its guys like me who are destroying the hobby, with our desire and enthusiasm for experimentation and learning.