Amateur Radio Operator BSA uniform patch discontinued

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  1. AK2M

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    Amateur Radio Operator Rating Strip — Discontinued
    The BSA's National Awards, Insignia, and Uniforms Committee has advised us that the Amateur Radio Operator Rating Strip has been discontinued. Here's the message from John Duncan, Volunteer Chair:

    The BSA recognizes that our uniform remains an important method in our program delivery. It follows that we must be good stewards of the limited space available on the uniform. It is wonderful that there are so many organizations, certifications, ratings, and professional credentials that are so well aligned with Scouting's core values, as evidenced by a high volume and continuing flow of similar requests for uniform pieces to identify current military, military veterans, civil servants, doctors and other medical professionals, EMTs, firefighters, law enforcement, clergy/faith leaders, environmental professionals, and others. The view of the committee is that while all such professions, certifications and ratings are laudable, the BSA uniform is not a proper way to recognize any of these. Instead, guidance in response to such proposals is generally what the ARRL has already done -- creation of a national-level Award for Service to Scouting, approved for inclusion as part of the community organization knot.

    While this is disappointing news, we can take consolation that we had a good run with the rating strip. Moreover, the existing rating strips can continue to be worn on the uniform. Here's the information shared by the Awards, Insignia, and Uniforms Committee:

    All discontinued Boy Scouts of America uniforms and insignia may be worn in keeping with the applicable uniform and insignia guidelines as of the time of their production, so long as condition of original insignia does not detract from the neatness of the uniform. Exact reproductions or “private issue” insignia are not authorized for uniform wear. Furthermore, existing supply will continue to be sold until exhausted, so for the passionate followers, consider buying a lifetime supply now! Although the diagrams errantly created and communicated broadly via Bryan on Scouting never made it into a Guide to Awards and Insignia, existing awards may continue to be worn as depicted in those diagrams, in keeping with this guidance.

    Given this information, it's probably time to stock up on the patches from BSA Supply. It's order number 617431 and here's the link for online ordering

    The details for uniform placement and requirements can be found at
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  2. AK2M

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    I give these out to scouts and scouters who earn their ham radio licenses, with the next one likely to be in November. I just bought a bunch (more than I intended) so I will be issuing these for years to come.
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  3. NW9F

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    That is disappointing, but the BSA has become increasingly disappointing to me over the past decade.
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  4. KM4KGN

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    [QUOTE="KD4MAX, post: 4827537, member: 798279"

    The BSA recognizes that our uniform remains an important method in our program delivery. [/QUOTE]

    I haven't actually seen a Scout in uniform in many years. Most scouts this day and time, only wear the shirt with a pair of bluejeans, and 9 times out of 10 the shirt is not even tucked in. IF it is such an important part of the program...perhaps they should worry more about seeing that it is properly worn, rather than a little strip on the shoulder.
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  5. AK2M

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    Our troop is a 100% uniform troop, with random inspections counting toward inter-patrol competitions. I tell scouts to tuck in their shirts all the time. It's rare to see a scout in jeans (though I did see one at our meeting this week) but we do have to police the green socks. We only get about 70-80% compliance on that one.
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  6. AK2M

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    The alternative is to let down our children and our neighbors' children. I prefer to work from the inside.
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  7. AA0RI

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    Several years ago, I believe it was about 1994 our Amateur radio club in Manhattan, KS was asked to come to Kansas State University and put on radio merit badge training for certification one Saturday. There were various other merit badge sessions going on at the same time at various locations on the campus.

    None of the boys that came to our radio sessions had read the book that was assigned reading prior to the session. Most paid no attention to our program and they all expected to receive the merit badge upon completion. Our club never returned to the event again when asked, we gave our reasons to the Scout officials.

    If this is what the merit badges stand for, why have them?

    Chuck Carter, AA0RI
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  8. KM4AHP

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    That is the Radio Merit Badge Patch. That has not been discontinued and has to be earned when a scout completes all of the requirements for that merit badge which then is signed off by the merit badge counselor for that badge. The strip they are talking about is this one.
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  9. W8JBM

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    Perhaps the patch has simply gone the way of the word BOY in Boy Scouts of America. It will always be hard to watch traditions and customs die out, with some having both intended and unintended consequences. Good luck to you guys doing your best fighting the good fight!
    KB2QQM, AC0OB, WW3JR and 10 others like this.
  10. KA0HCP

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    There were no Amateur Radio Operator strips when I was in scouting in the 70's. BSA has always had continually evolving uniforms. I don't see this is a big deal.
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