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14 Common Phone Mistakes

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by K8QS, Mar 9, 2021.

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  1. KK4YDR

    KK4YDR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Now youve lost the exchange by resorting to trolling.
     
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  2. W7UUU

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    Please keep the discussion civil... ;):)

    Thanks

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  3. N4MXZ

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    Courtesy of WB4CS. This is overwhelmingly what DXers use. I don't think this will ever change, because it is more efficient, especially when talking to ops whose first language is not English.
    Unless there is a change to Part 97, I will continue to use Norway 4, Mexico Xray Zanzibar when working DX or not working DX. Since that is my choice, even after being presented with alternative options, like the ITU/ICAO phonetics, it does not constitute a "mistake". :cool: I am curious as to what countries require ITU phonetics.
    A......AMERICA, Amsterdam
    B......BOSTON, Baltimore, Brazil
    C......CANADA, Columbia, Chile
    D......DENMARK
    E......ENGLAND, Egypt
    F......FRANCE, Finland
    G.....GERMANY, Guatemala, Geneva, Greece
    H.....HONOLULU, Hawaii
    I.......ITALY
    J......JAPAN
    K......KILOWATT, Kentucky, King
    L......LONDON, Lima, Luxembourg
    M......MEXICO, Montreal
    N......NORWAY, Nicaragua
    O......ONTARIO, Ocean,
    P......PORTUGAL, Pacific
    Q......QUEBEC, Queen
    R......RADIO, Romania, Russia
    S......SANTIAGO, Spain, Sweden
    T......TOKYO, Texas
    U......UNITED, URUGUAY
    V...... VICTORIA, Venezuela
    W......WASHINGTON
    X......X-RAY
    Y......YOKOHAMA
    Z...... ZANZIBAR, Zulu
     
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  4. PA0MHS

    PA0MHS Ham Member QRZ Page

    But you're talking to the rest of the world, right? And if it isn't mandatory for you, isn't it just good practise to use a standard anyway because it is mandatory for others?
     
  5. PA0MHS

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    I never debated that. Read what I wrote, please.
     
  6. PA0MHS

    PA0MHS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not exactly. Regarding to human language: although we speak different languages, we still use the same characters. Just the order and sometimes the pronounciation is different. But I can still recognize the language. That would be different if we would use different characters at all, like the people in Russia or China or Japan.
    Regarding different digital standards, you are right altough some of them do at least include a header, telling the receiver which sub-standard will be used.
     
  7. KG7WGX

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    Someone once asked me what I was going to do when I retired. I replied, "I'm going to be a curmudgeon."

    My XYL, who overheard this, helpfully added, "He doesn't need to practice." :)
     
  8. KK4YDR

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    Ok misunderstandings. All good.
     
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  9. K8QS

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  10. K8QS

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    Jim, what types of more egregious phone mistakes do you have in mind? Would love to know. Thanks.

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  13. VE2MMH

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    The ITU Standard recognised phonetic alphabet should be used by ALL Amateur Radio operators so that the names for letters and numbers would be distinct enough to be easily understood by those who exchanged voice messages by radio or telephone, regardless of LANGUAGE DIFFERENCES and/or the QUALITY of the connection.The main reason for doing so, is to reduce the amount of bad practices, that you gentelmen have so clearly pointed out in your video.A good read is from the Wikipedia site, just type in: 'NATO phonetic alphabet', for a more detailed explaination on this subject. 73, from VE2MMH Marc.
     
  14. K3XR

    K3XR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Amatuer radio in the US is regulated by the FCC part 97. and not Wikipedia. There is no reference to a "NATO phonetic alphabet" in those regulations. While use of the NATO phonetic alphabet would be acceptable so would any other.
    2) By a phone emission in the English language. Use of a phonetic alphabet as an aid for correct station identification is encouraged;

    Complete text here...
    ttps://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.119

    Thanks for your input.
     
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  15. KG7AV

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    I'd love to see that forthcoming video on ham obsessions or ham CDO. (That's like OCD only the letters are in the correct order).
     
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