Why Johnny Can’t Learn Code

I also feel sad and sorry for them. By way of this Morse Code mode of communication, they think even today that they are Gods gift of Amateur radio!

 

There are some societies right here in America that still thrive on the things considered obsolete. Ever hear of the Amish? Oil lamps- I use them during power failures. About the only thing considered obsolete by most people that I agree with is the corncob! I finally had to convert over to bog roll. (TP to the no coders!) Hi! 73 de Curt, N7AH

 

Well, what I stated made about as much sense as 90% of the comments on this subject! This is an old issue that goes way back before the requirements were downsized to be a ham. Quite frankly, I am getting pretty tired of all the ranting and raving over this particular topic. Isn't there something else to bash for a while (until the same subject is brought up in two or three weeks)? Curt

 

Unless they've very recently stopped, code burst
(300 wpm) is used by special operators.

Any MOS 18s out there or are all y'all over
there?

Code Intercept is still taught at Fort Huachuca for all branches of the service.

73 de Ronnie

 

The simplest solution is that when the international requirement is dropped, drop it from our bands except for the CW subbands. Let the FCC keep the federal mandate that CW only is to be used there. Then have them drop the rule that says CW can be used anywhere in the bands.

I don't want to hear CW on top of my 2 meter QSO any more than I want to hear packet or RTTY on my phone frequency subbands. I get annoyed when someone gets on 144.200 ssb call frequency with CW regardless of an ongoing phone QSO, but I can't go into his subband and call cq on phone.

I stay off all subbands not devoted to phone operation until and unless I choose to use the modes required. It is poor form in my opinion to use CW on VHF and UHF (except for repeater ID)phone frequencies that legal no code operators are restricted to. I feel that anyone who does so is a lid no matter what his class (or lack thereof). KD5KUF Joe

 

CW was done my 05 series, 18 series, 19
series (usin' the AN/GRC-19) amd 98 series
MOSs.

Speakin' of pet peeves, when I commanded
a Head & Head Battery for an 8" Bn. The
FDC personnel would come from Fort Sill with all
this computer genius on TACFIRE, etc and could not use sticks and charts. So that is the first thing we
taught them, 'cause 'puters are prone to fail when most neeeded. The high tech stuff is great, but when lives depend on it, you gotta have back
up.

73 de Ronnie

 

tomakawk1
uhh! you forgot, "barefoot", and, "being beat", to be sure one was worthy..
willie ag4hy

 

I just went to;

"A Learning Style Survey for College" written by Catherine Jester Learning Disability specialist Diablo Valley College at
http://www.metamath .com//multiple/multiple_choice_questions.cgi

I took the test and here are my results.


Visual/Nonverbal 38 Visual/Verbal 36 Auditory 8 Kinesthetic 28


Your primary learning style is:



The Visual/ Nonverbal Learning Style


I always knew I learned better by reading it, now I have some proof.

Just for what it's worth!</P>
73

KB9TMP

 

In the "old days" how did hams who are like you become hams when code was a requirement for any license? There must be some old timers who came across this problem and solved it. I'm sure there are some tricks that will work for you. Have you tried the NuMorse drills with the sound and visual code turned on? You'll probably do well with that. From there, you're one step from passing the code test. You just have to figure out how to get your brain to translate the sound into a visual picture of the dots and dashes.



Don't give up. I'm just as sick of hearing the old farts who refuse to help someone like you than of the no-code techs who rationalize that CW is worthless (They're both wrong). There's more to learning than just the "old fashioned way".



73
Roy
AD6ZU

 

I have been a non code tech for almost a year. I took and passed element two and three together. Now I decided to bite the bullet and study code. I have until March 2nd to take element 1 or I have to take the written test again (I just started two weeks ago using Morse Academy and I am doing quite well). I really don't want to learn code but I would like HF privledges. I see Woody's point but I don't agree with him on "freebanding". I am a truck driver by trade and I could care less about what you think about it. I got the HAM bug from using a CB radio, as a truck driver it is a very important tool. The problem is I can't stand to hear all of the "crap" on the CB frequencies so it's usually off most of the time. I decided to get my tech and now I want my general. One thing I will say though is to you "AnoneMouse". You give HAMS a bad name. You have done nothing but bash and insult Woody for voicing his opinion. You are just as bad as the "CB'rs that I hear every night that force me to shut the radio off. If anyone is tarnishing the name of amateur radio here it's you. Maybe you need to read section 97.1(e) of the FCC rules on Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

 

Thanks Jeff.
For years I tried and tried to the point of tears to get the 20 wpm. Barley got the 13 wpm.
I wanted the extra call, ok for vain purposes, but I had the head knowledge and yet could get there. When they lowered the code to 5 wpm. I jumped for joy.
I knew I wasn't stupid and I did try, I tried HARD. Now I know why I'll NEVER get there.
TNX
AL (JOHN) AE0AL

 

i passed my code test last night 1-30-02, i used code quick to learn the code, best program i have used, i would recommend this to anyone having problems learning the code

73s
david
k5wdw

 

I have limited experience as an educator. My training as an Air Force instructor agrees with your obsevation that motivation and desire are important factors in the learning experience. However these alone will not carry some individuals to the accomplishment of learning whatever task is set before them. I view learning CW as learning another language, a dialect of english if you will. Therefore my approach to learning or teaching CW would be based on language learning skills. 73, Tony D. dah-di-dah

 

These points are well made but the question remains, "What if Johnny doesnt' want to learn code?"

What then?

 

Simple, don't or stop trying to force him to. Say that you don't like fried chicken livers. Would you want the food police to tell you that you're by golly gonna have to eat them before they will offer you anything else? Of course not. Well that's precisely what we have here with the code requirement to obtain HF privilages. The requirement should be dropped relegating code to an option, just like all the other operating modes. And that is all we're talking about here in 2002. Just another operating mode. 73's