And technology made the elite radiomen irrelevant and reduced communications to a job a monkey can do. To stay in a past that no longer exists is to doom the hobby forever. What is needed Karl-Arne is not the past, but a future that is built upon the best bits the past has to offer while removing the redundant parts. The hobby has a future, and what made us great in the past will make us great again in the future. Its not about being elite, its about embracing self education in radio, electronics and communications and making that the focus of what we do. I agree, we need less wackers and preppers and more who desire to home brew and learn CW. These are the things what made your elite great and we can do those things again without being elite, we do it out of desire and sense of history. These are the things we need national societies to embrace and promote, anything less than that and we might as well be CBers.