FCC rule to Include Ham Radio Operators

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W1KGK, Oct 8, 2018.

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  1. KI6NAZ

    KI6NAZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    re: "This isn't "law", per se." Try not to pay the fine. I assume they'll start to resemble laws if you don't comply.
     
  2. WB5WPA

    WB5WPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Reading comprehension, God I miss it ...
     
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  3. KG5THG

    KG5THG XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Just curious, does this net catch those that have self modified their radios with a mars mod? I see those listed for sale here all the time.
     
  4. KI6NAZ

    KI6NAZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    I prefer people not splitting hairs myself, but to each his own.

    Edit to add:

    Specifically what CFRs do you believe match this "Amateur Radio Exception"? I queried many and looked myself and couldn't find anything standing in this area of using a radio on the ARS that can transmit outside of the ARS.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2018
  5. KI6NAZ

    KI6NAZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is my understanding that those radios qualify as homebrew, but would still need clarification.
     
  6. KA2RRK

    KA2RRK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

  7. K9HY

    K9HY Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'm glad their finally starting to tag this imported mass made imported "junk" which is imported hidden mass volume off inbound container ships . Better late than never. I wished they tag these 10m radios or 10/12m duo garbage as well which these sets are sold massive sales across the States in trucker CB shops , internet, Amazon, eBay, Craigslists and on and on...along also with Marine Band sets, etc. Most have 10m sets listed and @ 200 watts or better on some easily tripped, setup w/ linear's of all sizes , brag YOUTUBE vidoes of illegal setups and how 2's,QRM'ing our CW , the legal CB'ers and others... so-called illegal free band...
    Baeofeng is able to QRM Emergency freqs especially and I believe this is the main reason(s) for this. Too many cases and even a LID in NYC licensed Ham and I believe in KY for examples have done as such...
    I have a Ham friend in upper MI and many of times has said the poachers are using 2m and Marine, 10m ... whatever they get their hands on to hunt in teams... He ha gotten into on air confrontations with them as well but they get nasty and what are you going to do about it and I leave the cussing out here...

    GOOD EXAMPLE HERE...UNDER THEIR HAM RADIO RADIOS VS. 10M <?> WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?

    https://www.walcottradio.com/ham-radio-c-499.html HAM RADIOS
    https://www.walcottradio.com/marine-radios-c-85_376.html MARINE BAND IN TRUCKER SHOP<?>

    VS.

    UNDER CB IS LISTED 10M BUT NOT IN HAM <?>

    https://www.walcottradio.com/cb-radios-c-377_502.html




    Good examples.... http://www.jokermanelectronics.com/linear-cb-amplifiers/
    http://www.jokermanelectronics.com/10-meter-radio/
    http://www.davemade.mobi/
    https://www.facebook.com/xforce.amps/
    https://www.facebook.com/3CX10000A7/
    https://www.facebook.com/pirateampslacal/?ref=py_c

    long url >>
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate...ifiers-Sells-Talk-and-Trade-1505695413063701/
     
  8. N2SUB

    N2SUB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why is everyone so upset about a Public Notice? The FCC is simply restating existing laws, and indicating that they have noticed these laws have been broken. There is NOTHING NEW here. No new regulations, no new penalties. I read the notice, and it is simply saying what all of us know....you cannot import, advertise or sell an amateur radio that does not meet Part 90 FCC equipment certification. The "Amateur Radio Exception" is stating that a radio that only operates on the amateur spectrum does not need to be certified by the FCC as long as a licensed amateur operator is operating it.

    What we need to be aware of is that Baofeng mcan market essentially 2 versions of the same radio, one that's been certified and one that has not been certified. Sort of an "export version". A UV-82C is certified by the FCC, a standard UV-82 is NOT certified by the FCC.

    Certified: https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-82C-Dual-Band-Transceiver-Earpiece/dp/B00IJIHLNE
    Not Certified: https://www.amazon.com/Baofeng-Tri-...?ie=UTF8&qid=1539292462&sr=8-4&keywords=uv-82

    The onus is on the amateur to buy the right one. The FCC is simply restating the law (equipment must be certified to be marketed in the US) and saying the have noticed the law is being broken, mostly by online vendors. In a way, they are coming to the aid of the Amateur Service in making sure we know what we are buying.

    The technical issues with the Baofeng radios deserve much more attention than this Public Notice.
     
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  9. N6ONC

    N6ONC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well said on all points except a lot more could be said about "ham cram" and the lack of serious involvement in the hobby. It's a good thing we're not producing brain surgeons that way!
     
  10. KI6NAZ

    KI6NAZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    The ARRL disagrees with the amateur radio exception in the same way I do.

    So thats what "new" in the enforcement advisory.
     

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