FCC Proposes Eliminating Paper License Renewals by Surface Mail

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  1. K5UJ

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  2. K4XJ

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    I guess soon there will be no license at all the way its going.
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  3. WY7BG

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    In this day in age, I do not see electronic-only filing as problematic. But I am sure that some real "old farts" will disagree.
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  4. AA4MB

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    I can see the point of the FCC's request ... but for one thing. At approximately 5,000 manual filings received in the mail per year, that works out to be roughly 20 or so of those per day, give or take. Any agency of the federal government which cannot process 20 amateur applications per day - apparently the vast majority of these - is doing something gravely wrong. I work in a federal office which receives paper filings from Joe Public and I'd venture to say that each of those take far longer than an FCC license renewal to process. Particularly given the fact that I'd bet that most of these applications are renewals ... nearly all the information is already in the FCC's system. Also, since these for the most part likely from older hams renewing existing licenses, as they die off the number will only steadily decrease, not increase. In other words, this issue for the FCC will take care of itself over time.

    I can only imagine some old geezer who doesn't own a computer trying to figure out why his old FCC form didn't get a license renewal, but instead is now receiving a notice of apparent violation from the FCC for unlicensed operation. Oh, wait a minute ... sorry. That presupposes actual enforcement of the amateur frequency allocations, doesn't it?
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  5. AA4MB

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    <old fart mode / on> I'm 60 years old. Shall we take this outside and let me educate you by holding my IC-02AT by the antenna and letting the battery do the only work it's still capable of? ;) <old fart mode / off>
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  6. KU4X

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    <older fart mode/on>
    I'm 65 years old. Shall we take this outside and let me educate you by beating you with the wireless mouse I just used to take care of my FCC business on-line? :cool::cool:
    That GS-5 clerk that is taking care of amateur license renewals can be reassigned to more productive duties.
    <older fart mode/off>

    Survival belongs to those who can adapt. (I think someone smart said that a long time ago.)

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  7. K3XR

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    Noticed those numbers also. Get the feeling that the FCC not only wants to put amateur radio on the back burner, but they also want to put it somewhere out in the back 40?:D

    That didn't take long for comments from the "young punks".
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  8. W4NNF

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    That's the way of the world, and it's not a bad thing. If you can't (or don't want to) use a computer and navigate the ULS, there are a number of entities who will do that for you for a fee. ;)
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  9. W4NNF

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    I don't think the FCC wants to do anything of the sort. They just want to preserve the very limited resources they have now by going to all electronic filing. Something I'd have had them do at least ten years ago if I'd been in charge. It's freaking 2019. ;)
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  10. W4NNF

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    Non-sequitur. They are not changing the licenses, dumbing them down, or doing anything like that. They are trying to move to all-electronic filing the same way your electric company and your credit card company and everybody else are trying to move you to paying bills online--and for the exact same reasons. ;)
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