Texas HAMS Alert - SB 43 Pending in Texas Senate

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  1. K2DFC

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    Yes, just like in post #14. NJ didn't get it right the first time. We had to educate them. And they fixed it before the law went into effect.
     
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  2. KB5LIP

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    This is very true this time it makes the most sense so far concerning the amateur radio community as if this deal goes through requiring all mobile communication devices to be removed that I have to take there license plates back and turn them in, no radio in the vehicles and then when there's an emergency and they need Communications you stand there and scratch your head and say I told you this bill is not for all vehicles and drivers
    of course law enforcement is exempt from this regulation I drive a truck and before cell phones I had used my amateur radio equipment here in my rig to get across messages to people that probably would not have been reached one example like the earthquake in San Francisco California and I believe it was 1989 I happen to be real close to that area in my rig at that time.
    I do agree that something needs to be done about cell phones in vehicles you look down in a car or pick up 99 percent of the time the drivers looking at a phone I see it everyday
     
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  3. IK2ODD

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    For your benefit In Italy the rules doesn’t permit the use of cell phone and devices like a rtx. Only when you are driving of course. You must parking, no conversations allowed without Bluetooth on and steering wheels controls. Anyway In case of accident it could be hard to prove abstention from use.
     
  4. KA5ETX

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    No, can you please notify this person who I do not know.
     
  5. KA5ETX

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    Interersting
    Thanks,
    KA5ETX
     
  6. KF5JOT

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    KB5LIP: Please understand that this bill does not ban the use of amatuer radio in vehicles. What it covers is explicitly spelled out in 47 USC Section 332(c)7(C)(i). This defines the equipment as being wireless devices used in public use commercial service when in motion and not being operated via hands free capability. Amatuer radio by definition is not a commercial service. It also exempts text and voice dispatch systems used by commercial operators that are permanent installations in vehicles, as long as the operation is not specifically prohibited by FMCS rules or company rules.
     
  7. K4KWH

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    It doesn't specifically military comms. And they simply cannot do that anyway. The problem comes from BUBBA cops who do not KNOW what either the Federal law regarding amateur radio IS, the sole authority of the military, or government, agency involved is. The "restriction" comes as a result of confusion over what the radio actually IS, and whose jurisdiction actually applies. This is why I have asked for a Ruling from the Wireless Bureau (Scott Stone) to provide a blanket, Federal, Ruling that removes any confusion, and provides guidance TO states seeking to enact local laws WRT distracted driving.
     
  8. K4KWH

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    I already AM "involved" in disaster communications--just not under civilian regulations. Because of this, it is one of the reasons I am so strongly against local laws that meddle in communications. Mainly, it goes to "confusion" that may result from local LEO's not being able to distinguish between civilian and other forms of communications. IOW, cops writing tickets and telling the "offender" who is actually not "offending" anything, to "tell it to the judge". Meanwhile, he, perhaps, while being detained in this way, is late to a mission or disaster. IMHO, local authorities have no business sticking their noses in communications matters, or attempting to supercede Federal law.
     
  9. K4KWH

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    It IS the cell phone that is the culprit here, not the two way radio. They are two different animals altogether! Ignorant little turkeys thinking they are "doing something" are accomplishing nothing. I still say that, being that the two way radio is DIRECTLY licensed TO the operator/station and that the RULES pertaining thereto are FEDERAL. Further, these rules as now written, and codified in court proceedings, ALLOW and ENCOURAGE the use of mobile (amateur) radio, and attempts by a state to abrogate, restrict, preven the use of same are overreach and the FCC is not going to allow it. We must still, at the state and region level, continue to be active in responding to these local stupes, and stopping such laws from being passed before one or more of us have to be in court to test their laws!
     
  10. W4KVW

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    Why is it that Amateur Radio Operators think because we have a license that we are safer drivers than everyone else? We have no special driver training & very few contacts from the mobile are Emergency Related in any way. One thing being exempted for the handling of Emergency Traffic but just for general run of the mill daily BS sessions it can be just a bad or worse than Texting & driving if you are spinning a VFO or changing bands because it does require taking your eyes off of the road so that you can see the radio display in many cases. Yes I have a mobile & there is a similar bill being considered in Florida where I live at this time & if it passes it's not a big deal. Reminds me of the old story about The Sky Is Falling. LOL I think lives are far more important than County Hunting or whatever else you may be doing.

    Clayton
    W4KVW
    Lets see with current Licensed Amateur Radio Operator membership at around 30% Nationally in the ARRL how many dues paying members is that in Texas? Couple of hundred maybe? LOL It's funny that people actually think the ARRL has any say so since they are even more powerless than the Toothless Lion aka:FCC. Thanks for the laugh is is some good medicine I must say. hehe haha LOL {:>)

    Clayton
    W4KVW
     
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