Morse Code Dropped in VK - Media Release

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w5ssg @ Nov. 17 2003,19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k1lwi @ Nov. 17 2003,18:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">its just mater of time untill the usa will do away with code no more cw bands open up for fone  how about doing away with testing qa just will be a fone  bands ham radio going to the dog  bye bye to ham radio [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Get a grip, the world is not coming to a end. I'm getting tried of all the cry baby's.

You sound like a Democrate



Jim
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i like my cw just another mode but it is lots of fun sending code i can copy 50 wpm do not think doing away with cw test will get more in to ham radio why get in to ham with the inter net you need no ant no  rig and no rfi tvi so think ham radio is dieing only one will help is the CBER but not many CBER around the CB band here is dead good luck guys 73  

 

Oh Well, There goes another one. I was hoping to work the VK's next time F layer opens on six meters. My question is, how is the VHF spectrum going to be utilized when the Morse Code requirement is lifted in the USA? Everyone running 6 & 2 meters for DX, and sporatic E openings will move to 20 meters where you can work the world with a Butternut buried in your backyard. hi

 

WOW! What great news! I can't wait to hear an Australian 12 year old yelling BREAKER BREAKER in the microphone on 20 Meters! This will certainly save the hobby! Just like CB saved truck driving! ROTFLMAO!!!!

 

WHY ARE ANY OF MY FELLOW NO CODE ADVOCATES CRYING??? Don't forget there is life ouside of HF...There are 16 large bands that you don't need anything more than a Technician license to use...Don't forget, an unused band still gets sold to the highest bidder, no matter what it is. ALL of us should be out there using the bands we have, ALL OF THEM.

Go sattelite, EME, Microwave...something to keep you off this board for days at a time reading 300 pages of posts by grumpy old men who don't want anything to change...PROGRESS IS CHANGE.

Peace, Love and 73

 

The code, no code debate really excites the extreme on either side of the issue, but while we are argueing over the code/no code issue we find Ham radio dying a slow and painful death
Many would say the no code techs are the problem with Ham radio, All i say is listen to 75m.
I would have to up grade to sound like those cb'ers.

 

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KQ6XA @ Nov. 17 2003,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Congratulations to all the hams in Australia for saving the future of amateur radio on HF there.

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Yes, by all means! The code will definitely "kill" amateur radio! Hi!

 

Communications specialist with B class licence since 87 could do morse at about 30WPM wouldn't take test out of principal ( they dont make me do a Latin test to go into a library) so why should I do a morse test to use the phone on HF? Morse will not die because it is of use where other modes cannot get through, interested people will listen and learn it anyway I may even get back into practice now I dont have to. The "no more morse test" will help our hobby and may even save it, as for people who don't own a mic perhaps they should take a re test before they are allowed to use phone! This is the only thing that has rekindled my interest in ham radio again hurah.

 

WC5RR,

Actually, a no code requirement will SAVE amateur radio.

And for those who lay claim that it will make it more like CB, all the better. I love CB, great group of people on the bands there, far better than most on the amateur airwaves by far.

Bonnie, I'm with you ... the sooner the code is gone the better it will be for all.

Chuck, AA1MN

 

grow up yah sad muppets.

 

10-4...i say modumtate (sp checked) that signal b4 you put the fire in the wire! nicht that Cold Water test!

 

10-4 wasatech..used to one of them now an extra lite using modumtated r.f.

 

Our collective voice will determine the outcome of this debate. Lets keep it constructive. When we make comments about it "going to become like CB" we are attacking some of our fellow hams (technican). Who do you know in your local club that you talk to daily on a 2M repeater, that has a licence but has not mastered the code? Next time you are on 6M and make a contact in a distant state with a technican, you talking to one of those hams "without code".

Lets show the world we can have an intelligent conversation. Whatever the outcome.

 

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aa1mn @ Nov. 18 2003,07:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">WC5RR,

Actually, a no code requirement will SAVE amateur radio.

And for those who lay claim that it will make it more like CB,  all the better.  I love CB, great group of people on the bands there, far better than most on the amateur airwaves by far.

Bonnie, I'm with you ... the sooner the code is gone the better it will be for all.

Chuck, AA1MN
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Once again, logic escapes the argument.

Doing away with code testing improves amateur radio. Huh?
I realize you are trolling, but try tuning into Channel 19. You want more of that on HF, have at it. I will be in the CW portion enjoying intelligent QSOs. Sorry.

In the words from one of Sammy Hagar's songs:

"I can't do, 5 WPM!"

 

It seems that every time a media hit mentions a country deleting the code test element from their respective amateur licensing structure, a flame war begins in the forum. From individuals that hide behind aonymity (no callsign), the counter productive dribble is spewed the trolling and flaming begins.

Let's face it. The Feds, albeit slow in movement, will undoubtedly delete the code element testing as well, just to follow suit with everyone else.

Having a code element test doesn't make or break operators. It won't filter out the "undesireables", it won't keep good ops from going bad, it won't make 75 or 20 meters into an Eden of HF operating, it won't make 2 meters a haven free from repeater wars.

Personally, I don't understand the need for the deletion of a simple code test (5 wpm) that basically determines if one has some ability to copy code, just as a written test determines if one understands the basics of amateur radio (i.e. technology, rules and regulations, etc.).

Then again, I don't understand why the same individuals whine about having to learn something, anything as evidenced in many of the countless posts.

Just because I had to learn code, pass 20 wpm doesn't make me an El Supremo operator. Then again, obtaining a license via memorization of 50 questions won't make the HF portions of the bands any more pleasant to listen to in coming months.

If the powers to be decide to eliminate code testing, it will happen, no matter what. Those of us that use and enjoy CW will continue to do so. If the CW portions of the bands are reduced, then I suspect those that cherish SSB will have to contend with CW operation occurring much higher up the band with the SSB operation since it is already legal to do so. By gentlemen's agreement, which may be coming to an end, CW has contained itself in the lower portions of the bands. I hope that if the CW portions are affected, the forthcoming QRM of CW mixed in with SSB won't generate posts whining about the crowded band conditons, the QRMing, etc. So far, there has been sufficient (and more so) room for all to operate.

Let's just hope that our "powers to be" have more thought involved in this decision and enough foresight to see a future for amateur radio and not indirectly turn it into another CB debacle.

 

WC5RR,

On what basis are you making your statement that you know I'm "trolling"? Any facts to back that up?

Just as you cannot understand the need to eliminate the 5 WPM code requirement I cannot understand the need for it. Knowing code does not make an individual a better person or, for that matter, a better ham ... neither does showing proficiency on the written element either.

What makes a good person, and a good amateur radio operator, is something called "character", are you familiar with having character WC5RR or are you simply content to term those who have it as "trolls"?

Chuck, AA1MN