FCC PERMITS CERTAIN OBSCENITIES

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  1. W0LC

    W0LC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Common sense, mutual respect for others, courtesy, all escape those that use this type of language on the general public where "changing the channel" is a poor excuse/solution to compensate for a general lack of decency.

    I can get my point across without the use of such "wording" regardless if I enjoy using it or not.

    Simply changing the channel is a band-aid to something that has already occurred. The damage already done. Simply, put this sort of "talk" on guarded channels and then one can decide, individually to watch, listen, participate in such activity. For the rest of us, we would appreciate the same courtesy to view, watch, listen, etc., to what we enjoy without the shock treatment.

    Too simple of an approach I am certain!
     
  2. W0LC

    W0LC Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb9num @ Jan. 02 2004,20:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">K3PZ said:
    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You just perfectly described modern day "liberalism" ( the scourge of our times).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

    Interesting position since the source of all this discussion is a commission under the control of the most conservative, even reactionary, administration in modern times.  Nice to know that George W is so liberal.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    In all due respect, I am certain President Bush et al have better things to be concerned about rather then to become actively involved in public entertainment. I suppose that is why there is a "commission" in place to start with. They made a poor decision as represented here by the numerous posts.

    I am certain this won't be the last we hear of it either!
     
  3. WJ9L

    WJ9L Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wc5rr @ Jan. 05 2004,06:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb9num @ Jan. 02 2004,20:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">K3PZ said:
    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You just perfectly described modern day "liberalism" ( the scourge of our times).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

    Interesting position since the source of all this discussion is a commission under the control of the most conservative, even reactionary, administration in modern times. Nice to know that George W is so liberal.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    In all due respect, I am certain President Bush et al have better things to be concerned about rather then to become actively involved in public entertainment. I suppose that is why there is a "commission" in place to start with. They made a poor decision as represented here by the numerous posts.

    I am certain this won't be the last we hear of it either![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    If you will read my comment you clearly see that I give credit to the administration, not to the president. He is truly responsible for very little. He just does what he is told. The makeup of the FCC leadership was selected by the same political machine that chose George W. Therefore it is hardly a liberal commission. But this is just as off topic as the cheap shot that caused my reply in the first place.
     
  4. W0LC

    W0LC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Interesting that you considered a reply a "cheap shot" which it wasn't nor stated as such.
     
  5. WJ9L

    WJ9L Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wc5rr @ Jan. 05 2004,07:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Interesting that you considered a reply a "cheap shot" which it wasn't nor stated as such.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    I wasn't referring to your comments. The cheap shot was the dig at liberals that started this sub thread.
     
  6. W0LC

    W0LC Ham Member QRZ Page

    I stand corrected. Sometimes these posts get run together. Imagine that!
     
  7. WZ7U

    WZ7U Ham Member QRZ Page

    I, however, will still agree with the position that liberalism helped get us where we are today, regardless of which political entity is currently in charge. It is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Save America : Stop Liberal Socialism. God have mercy on us all [​IMG]
     
  8. W0LC

    W0LC Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kk7ue @ Jan. 05 2004,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I, however, will still agree with the position that liberalism helped get us where we are today, regardless of which political entity is currently in charge. It is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Save America : Stop Liberal Socialism. God have mercy on us all   [​IMG][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    I think (and this is a personal observation) that as a society, we have continued to move closer and closer from conservativism towards the middle ground, which is as you say, more liberal in views and more tolerant of the "anything goes" attitude.

    I do believe that those who are conservative bascially complain and do nothing, whereas the liberal front takes action and through the actions of the few, obtain their goals all the while the conservative side sits by and complains all the more.

    Kinda like "How to Boil a Frog". You turn the heat up slowly until the frog determines it is too hot, but by then, it is too late. The water is boiling.

    I will say this. I don't condone what Rush did with the "illegal" prescriptions, etc., but the government has no business poking it's head into someone's private medical files, that are supposedly, protected via HIPA nowadays. It just goes to show you. It depends on the day of the week. The Feds will do what they want, and when they want, invoke this or that and promote this or that, regardless if it is 180 degrees out of phase with current law.
     
  9. N0OV

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KT0DD @ Jan. 03 2004,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do not use profanity on the air. However, UNFORTUNATELY retesting would not hold up in a court battle. The U.S. Supreme court rulings on free speech/ 1st amendment would hold up, regardless of the medium used, Radio/ Amateur Radio/ TV etc. and the U.S. Supreme Court outranks the FCC. [​IMG] 73.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Sorry, respect your opinion but can't buy the 1st amendment argument.

    The current rules in place place realistic limits on what can be said on the amateur bands -- e.g. cannot be used for business, licensing requirements, what is and is not appropriate.

    For the privilege of using the bands I took the test and agreed to operate within the parameters outlined.

    Freedom does not imply we are free to do what we will.

    Guess there will always be someone walking on the ice to see how far they can go before it breaks.

    As for me, I'll continue to exercise my right to hit the power switch or change bands...............

    73
     
  10. KB1HJL

    KB1HJL Ham Member QRZ Page

    [​IMG]2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N8CPA @ Dec. 16 2003,12[​IMG]2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WA6TLG @ Dec. 16 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From what i understand the f word was originated from the (i believe it is called an acronym, forgive my spelling) Fornication Under Carnal Knowledge. And what would be the meaning of that? Sex of course! It is my believe whether free speech or not it is wrong to use the f-word The fcc should look up the meaning of the word! [​IMG][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Wrong!  That's a popular myth, but only a myth.  It actually derives a teutonic term originally spelled with a Latin letter resembling our y.  The phoneme was pronounced more like an oomlatued German u (ue).  It was when the word was absorbed into Anglo-Saxon that the German ch portion of it hardened into the k sound, and the y became short u.  

    The other words in the carnal knowledge phrase came into English much later.

    Irrespective of its etymology, it does not belong on amateur radio, and regardless what the fleshed out hollywood puppets say or do.  Remember actors and such only have jobs because writers put words in their mouths, and directors pull their emotive strings.  It's when they speak using own their own mental power that their lack of brains become apparent.  Also remember that most directors are ugly actors, and are just as mindless.  They are the archetype of far more style than substance, in what they say or do.

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO there!  [​IMG][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Hi Steve,  
        I was wondering if you could please tell me where I can find this word; "oomlatued" ? I believe the right word is; "umlaut"  or "lauted". I  was reading your statement  about the word.; f_ _ _ .
    Also, Where did they get the "F" from??  The other is pretty well explained, but you failed to say where the F came from!!
    You wrote; (Wrong!  That's a popular myth, but only a myth.  It actually derives a teutonic term originally spelled with a Latin letter resembling our y.  The phoneme was pronounced more like an oomlatued German u (ue).  It was when the word was absorbed into Anglo-Saxon that the German ch portion of it hardened into the k sound, and the y became short u.  
    The other words in the carnal knowledge phrase came into English much later.)
    Thanks, George   [​IMG]
     
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