ARRL: Commercial Interests Petition FCC for High Power Allocation on Shortwave Spectrum

From the ARRL dated 07/11/2023:

"The ad hoc group 'Shortwave Modernization Coalition' (SMC) petitioned the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to allow data communications on multiple bands within the HF 2 – 25 MHz range with up to 20 KW, including in bands immediately adjacent to spectrum allocated to the Amateur Radio Service. This group appears to represent high-speed stock trading interests. The FCC has assigned it RM-11953. Comments are due by July 31, 2023, and reply comments by August 15. While the petitioners exclude the amateur bands, high power operations on immediately adjacent bands are proposed. ARRL The National Association for Amateur Radio® is reviewing the petition. A copy of the petition is at: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1042840187330/1 (PDF)."

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The above article as published on the ARRL website can be found here: http://www.arrl.org/news/commercial...r-high-power-allocation-on-shortwave-spectrum

The SMC also commissioned a "Study on 2-25 MHz Band Coexistence" from an entity named Quadra Partners, LLC. I ask that those with far more knowledge than I to please review the coexistence study and share your observations. The study is included in the RM as published on the FCC website.

I hope my post spawns a productive exchange of ideas on QRZ and triggers an appropriate and effective response to the FCC RM during the open comment period.

73 de NF6E.

 

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?find-new/124071619/posts&page=3

As stated in that post, I have no fear and have over a thousand percent confidence that our great American Radio Relay League will save us all.


And the stockbrokers are smart enough not to get on the amateur frequencies/ they don't want to be interfered with, they have big money deals that could be affected $$$$$$$


73 from,
The K0UO " Rhombic Antenna Farm" miles of wire in the Air & On the AIR daily

 

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm; how could the average amateur’s single output-limited signal from a compromise antenna interfere with 20kW spread spectrum big guns outside the amateur bands?

 

Will wait to see more info ?

 

It's true, I'm not in the US but this news is of interest to all radio amateurs in the world. I have already downloaded the document and will read it carefully. Thank you for posting the news.

 

Foreign Interests (Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, etc.) are the groups / companies listed. Sending digital data that no one can monitor except for the NSA. 20,000 Watts on 14.350. Even if it is the degradation that they are talking about in-band it is still 6 watts next to the frequency. And, no telling how close it will be to people here in the USA. It's a bad deal.

 

Not requested for ham bands. Outside of ham bands.

This is for high speed hedge fund trades. Not for spy transmissions. Also, there are plenty of high powered transmissions in "adjacent bands". Already.

Not exactly a new issue people.

What's wrong with you?!

The "productive exchange of ideas" should be inclusive of UNDERSTANDING FREQUENCY ALLOCATIONS outside of the ham bands. And what's on them.

OTOH, the petition is weak, for failing to detail OTHER user benefits that would result from Part 90 amendments. It asserts "innovations" but fails to describe any of them. The FCC will not go ahead just for the sake of a few hedge funds.

Finally, had it EVER occurred to ANY of you that the people who are responsible for making this happen are HAMS? Think about it.

Think about that one. Some more.

Not me, BTW.

 

Yeah! It's not like a 20KW adjacent signal could ever affect someone's reciever.

 

Money talks, we are just flees on an Elephant back ARRL and the FCC will be bought off, why do you think the petition was issued in april and we are just now hearing about it> ARRL knew about this in April.

 

The answer to that question is well understood, we just can't talk about it here.

 

Your comment indicates absent of knowledge base on this area.

High powered transmissions exist well near HF and MF ham bands and they do not disrupt ham allocations.

Go just below the 30M band tonight. Listen.

Period.

 

Maybe money talks, but it sure wrote a crappy petition. There is nothing that begs acceptance here.

Assuming you object to it, you should be grateful the petitioners failed to make their case.

 

BTW...

the antennas they use weren't made by GOTHAM...

 

MFJ?

 

No.

My point is that the realm of HF is the expertise of HAMS.

They are not incidental to the issue. They are involved.

I know roughly a dozen experts in HF. Almost all are hams.

Assume they are trying to steer the issue AWAY from ham allocations. And since these are commercial issues, not Part 97 ones, they are very unlikely to divulge their involvement.

Why should they?

I wouldn't...