Just missed them on 20CW as I was fiddling with the Kilowatt and by the time I got it to work, they had gone to 20SSB I called there but the Kilowatt wasn't working. No RF output according to the meters. But they answered me anyway. So I worked them on a few MILLIWATTS of RF. Later I got everything working fine, with a full gallon out. Now that I didn't need it!