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Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by ae9b, Nov 5, 2003.

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  1. ae9b

    ae9b Guest

    As I began to work the weekend's ARRL Sweepstakes CW contest and realized that I would be competing against myself, striving for a better score, I had a different thought. Some young person (one who has yet to get Worked All States) would have a great weekend during this contest. Work All States in one weekend (something many of us take for granted). Now, having that thought in my head for nearly a week, I would like to encourage some of my contesting brethren to try to find a young ham in your area that would like to do such a thing. I would like to make my place available to a young ham within 100 miles of the Kansas City area for the ARRL SSB Sweepstakes contest weekend (Saturday, Sunday). Anyone interested (25 years old or younger) Apply to my EMail address and I will inform you if you're the lucky winner. I hope others will join in the open, inviting, Elmering that once was the norm.

    UPDATE!!!! I received ZERO calls, Emails or other requests. Are there any hams younger than 25? I originally thought 25 was too old but considered our Kansas City population and raised the bar. I know the WWYoung Hams have a nice group. But my sense of reality is that I better enjoy the frinedships I have because there are very few young hams. I'm not just another old grouchy man.. but sometimes I feel like one.
  2. KD7OVP

    KD7OVP Ham Member QRZ Page

    Great post! It is very true. I am 17 yr old General who is 10 states away from my 20m WAS so I will be working the sweepstakes hard for those states. Even though you already have WAS or such it would still be nice to have all the states active. I really hope Maine, and Delaware are on. Hope to hear you all next weekend.

    Jesse KD7OVP
    Edmonds, WA [​IMG]
  3. KD7RDY

    KD7RDY Guest

    Hi all. I am a 14 yr. old extra; I do not work the SS. I have about 45 states and am not iterested in domestic stuff. I do most of my operating from my elmers station. He has a big station and a couple HUMUNGO antennas. I wholeheartedly reccomend any one with a small antenna and big contesting dreams to invite themselves to spend the weekend at a decent station in the area.

    73! Caleb KD7RDY
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Unfortunately WAS requires confirmation of the QSO with a valid signal report. Sweepstakes is not a contest that signal reports are part of the exchange. Unless you indicate to the station being worked that you are going after WAS and have a valid exchange of signal reports I think that credit may be denied for WAS as the signal report is not part of the exchange and therefore it would be hard to confirm the QSO with signal report information not present on the qsl card. Many contest have signal report exchanges as part of the contest such as the major DX contest. No telling why Sweepstakes was set up the way it was but I think based on lack of signal report exchanges, confirmation of QSO's without a valid exchange of signal reports may be difficult. Good luck with WAS, WAC and DXCC. Chasing paper and awards has kept me interested in the hobby for 27 years. I look forward to the next 27 + years ahead.

    Mark - KI4VB
  5. WA4JA

    WA4JA Ham Member QRZ Page

    ARRL website says "No signal report is required," for WAS. Written confirmation is needed.

    Besides, during most high-rate contests, 99 percent of the contacts are reported 5/9 and 599. Is it right? Too deep for me.

    Use those SS QSLs for WAS. AE9B is always good for a QSL, too. Thanks, Tom.
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Interesting string...

    I really enjoy this contest for just the reason y'all are discussing; if you're looking for WAS, it's like just ordering off a menu:

    "Yes, I'll have an order of West Virginia with a side of Vermont, please."

    I used the contest last year to mop up a few I needed for WAS/QRP.  It's not that working KS or IA is hard; it was just a matter of opportunity.  

    But the signal issue is interesting.

    It has been pointed out that, "WAS requires confirmation of the QSO with a valid signal report."  In reply, someone else wrote, "ARRL website says 'No signal report is required,' for WAS."

    Actually, what the ARRL rules say is "[t]here is no minimum signal report required."  The lawyer in me thinks this implies that a signal report of some kind is required, but even a 1x1 is acceptable.

    But, ultimately, this is probably an academic question.  If you QSL a contester in this contest, the card is going to have a 59 on it.  Further, if you ask for a report, the contester, if he has any manners at all (and some hard core contesters don't, to be sure), he will give you one.

    So, lookin' for WAS?  Knock yourself out.  50 states in a weekend is not that hard.  Fun, too.

    Peter, N4LI
  7. N8CPA

    N8CPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    The lawyer in me takes that minimal report as meaning that any kind of written confirmation, means a minmum of 1x1.  I have known several who used QSLs stemming from SS for documentation.  Also, the complex nature of the SS exchange means much more than RS-T.  Completing the exchange IS the signal report.

    Also, for several years running, I had Techs from the Field Day club come over and particpate in Phone SS. I'm not really interested in phone operations, but the get together was tons of fun. I've always thought that public displays during SS and state QSO parties would be a great means of promoting Amatier Radio, especially when CW is involved.

    The general public dismisses microphones as CB. They dismiss Data modes as wireless internet. But when they hear those sidetones, and see an operator using a key in real life... Try it and see what happens!

    Excellent post, by the way!

  8. N0ZB

    N0ZB Guest

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    The public? Heck, that's the way CW makes me feel. Catching a glimpse of the ol' Speed-X getting ready for work in the morning makes me want to call in sick and pound it all day.

    AE9B: I think we're all in agreement. Great post, great attitude!
  9. N0AX

    N0AX XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    The World-Wide Young Contesters group ( is a great on-line "club" for those of you under 30 (not me).  It's an excellent place to meet other contesters without having to deal with all of us baby boomers :)  There are lots of members and articles - go for it!

    WAS is a great way to get started in awards chasing.  SS is also an excellent way to start on your 5BWAS, too!  It takes some doin', but that plaque looks mighty good on your wall. Even better for 5BWAS are the North American QSO Parties ( in January and August.  You can work stations on 160-10, it's low-power only, runs for 12-hours and stations hop from band to band a LOT. One of the best contests around.

    73, Ward N0AX
  10. N7VR

    N7VR Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    While I could not get any takers for the ARRL SSB SS contest weekend [​IMG]

    I was able to put together a team of 6 for the CQ WW DX CW weekend. This should be 48 hours of fun [​IMG] We will have 3 "Old Timers" and three newbies on the team. "Elmering" is great no matter what contest or how you get it done.

    This station will be on during the ARRL SSB Contest as a single operator station from Montana. This station will be a Multi Operator Station form area 4 in the CQ DX WW CW contest. I hope to meet many new friends

    Jim Fuller
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