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Young ham wins youth achievement award from radio club of america

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W1YW, Dec 3, 2011.

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  1. BD3CT

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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I didn't: they were pointed out to me:) But I knew about the talk as two of my customers heard it & congratulated me on it--they assumed from most of the images (that they had seen in my publications) that we had worked together on it . I was happy you used them--and everyone now knows you had my permission:)

    'Inspire' is a loaded word; be careful with it. People who are dead , historical, or inaccessible are 'inspiring'.

    A little story. The first time I went to lunch with Mandelbrot I told him he 'inspired' me. He then swore at me in Yiddish (with a French accent--most Americans got this impression that Mandelbrot was arrogant (he wasn't); I just thought he was being French:) and told me where to place 'inspire'. Polymaths have amusing ways with malapropic metaphors: they actually gain something in translation. He made me pay for lunch.

    I am alive. I mentor(as NL7W pointed out.) With fractal electronics exploding as we speak, that's a pretty coveted position ;-)

    You know where to find me. But you'll pay for lunch:)

    And congrats again on the excellent presentation and work;-)

    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2011
  3. W1YW

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    Of course there is quite a bit of IP already that covers the bases on fractal antennas. Having spent well over a million dollars on the IP, I can vouch for that.

    There's also a fair amount on automatic antenna design (Here's one: US patent app 20030229861) . Not sure why anyone bothers...method patents from software are essentially useless because the claims are so dependent on the phrasing. There's a famous case where someone got around a method-software patent by doing one of the parts of the claim outside the US and then doing the rest here. That's why I never sought a patent for fractal genetic optimization (FRAGO), which was published in 1997 (in Proc. ACES) and shown as a working system in 2002 in the ACES proceedings.

    My company toyed with the idea of becoming a 'boutique' house 10 years ago. People would send in a design problem, we would solve it on a Beowulf system, and then send the gerber file/DxF. In fact several VC backed stabs have been tried at that with other startups--most notably at RFID. They all failed (and thus I am glad we didn't do it). The reason they failed is that there is a deep, dark secret with antenna simulations--they don't work with the precision needed in real applications in real environments. They still don't. You have to make and tweak them as real honest to God hardware, rather then manipulating bits like a computer game:). That's one of the things I do daily with my colleagues--make and tweak--in real environments such as packaging and cases, with a huge collection of reference designs , most computer based: close but still needing that hardware human touch;-)

    Speaking of which, you need to learn the fine art of fiddling with copper tape, utility knives and Dremels. All the antenna and RF people reading this know what I mean:)
    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2011
  4. W1YW

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    Doing your own, limited experimentation would be difficult to present as patent infringement. You know that I actively encourage folks to do such experimentation. There's little going on in ham radio, but there's a buzz of activity with young people (for example) experimenting with fractal HDTV antennas. Kinda surprised me. But its cool.

    If you are referring to something novel, I suggest you find someone willing to proffer a few minutes of free lawyer time: even that may not jive with the reality of what goes on in a courtroom, but it probably is better than that from non-patent attorneys.

    For example, as a non-patent attorney, my assumption is that the work is published when it goes online, and thus is invalid for foreign patent filings. In the US you have one year to file upon 'publication'. My son got the same advice when he decided to submitted for his first patent (he was in high school) and waited until after filing to divulge. You might check out the new 'first to file' rules, that have various dates that apply and are pretty non-straight forward.

    Chip W1YW
  5. KD0FAA

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    There really is nothing that needs to be protected in my repository because most of everything I've done has been done before, as you have indicated. I'm hoping that my second revision will change this, as I have some altogether different ideas I would like to integrate in the future. However, I may change my mind and have it as open source.

    For those of you who are interested, you can view my repository here. It is a modest first Python project, but it serves the purpose.

    At my work, they have used copper tape to test for any RF that escapes from the shielding of their radios. There seem to be quite a few uses for copper tape, and I can see where constructing higher frequency fractal antennas (or any higher-frequency antenna, for that matter) would be possible (cutting it with the X-Acto knife, etc.). That is something I should experiment with. I appreciate your advice, these pearls of wisdom will be valuable in my future career.


    Austin, KD0FAA
  6. W1YW

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    The point is that copper tape, a utility knife, and a dremel are still used to fine tune antennas at vHf on up:)

    If you have an antenna you'd like us to test for you let me know. You can either come and do it, or we'll do it, video tape it, and send it all back for you. Free of course.

    You should also consider making a useful 2M and 70cm antenna--something easy to build and better than whats out there either in performance and or form factor. QST would like that; I've been too busy to write something up. Not a novelty antenna--people have been misled too much by the frac-hacks (most of which are competitors) already into saying 'fractals are no better, blah blah blah..' Usually those people already have log periodics in their labs or on their roofs...don;'t bother pointing out the irony.

    You should be thinking about the INTEL STS for senior year...I've been approached by a couple of students far less talented this year and had to turn them down. I think you have options. Talk to Carole about it.

    Freespace makes good smart grid stuff BTW..

    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2011
  7. K1BG

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    Austin, congratulations. Well done. Keep up the good work.

    I can't explain how great it is to see Chip post this. I hope to see both of you at Dayton next year.

    73 -

    Bruce, K1BG
  8. W1YW

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    ...and, also, we can all blame Herman Munster, W6XRL4 ;-)

  9. KC2SIZ

    KC2SIZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Way to go Austin! You rock!
  10. W5TTW

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    Atta boy Austin!
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