Yaesu 800SDX & watches ?

Discussion in 'General Technical Questions and Answers' started by KD0CAC, Jun 3, 2016.

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  1. KD0CAC

    KD0CAC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Bought here a few days ago , with warning it may / or may not function , may need new connectors .
    Cleaned up the connectors , even used the last 4-5" of wire to connect to controller to test , seemed everything worked , except that it had a very short travel , about less than 1/4 turn & stop , would go both ways but stops at 1/4 turn .
    All functions , preset , speed , light works - just stops - the stop sounds like it locks up .
    Take apart and find there was epoxy inside at the center of the top cover .
    Look at the outside & part of the channel that guides the mast clamps was broke off , so they wanted to stop leaking with the epoxy .
    Now comes the clock part , the main drive gear - four layer plate gears , to the inside of top cover .
    Had one tooth broke off and one bent over to the next tooth .
    My guess is they did not get the timing correct when putting it back together from the epoxy repair , and the stop switch was being activated in the one direction - that broke & bent the teeth .
    Now again back to the watch part ;)
    I was talking to a couple of friends about making new gears [ they knew I no long had access to mill & lathe ,
    My reply was they were making watches long before they had mills & lathes .
    Emailed Yaesu after one day Yaesu emailed back they no longer had those parts , so I will be doing a little watch repair .
     
  2. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    The main reason to stick with Hy-Gain type rotators.:)

    They're super simple, rarely break, and if they do, spare parts are readily available all over the place.
     
  3. KD0CAC

    KD0CAC Ham Member QRZ Page

    On the other side of that , maybe start repairing Yaesu rotors , built is work ;)
    Wish I still had my shop , could make a lot of what is not available .
    When I get to a better internet connection , I'l have to load some pictures .
    I now have 2 rotors that were out of timing , one was operated , the one I am fixing now , the other was never operated - so will be ok , now that I have learned how to do the gear-timing-setup .
    Have to keep an eye out for Yaesu rotors / parts .
     
  4. KD0CAC

    KD0CAC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here's some pictures ,
    Dang , downloaded from iphone to email and file is too big , so can not post ?
     
  5. WA7DU

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    For the life of me, I do not understand why Yaesu will sell rotators in a market, then not support them with service and spare parts. I wonder what the sales are in other markets such as Asia, Austrailia, Europe, and the rest of the southern hemisphere. There is a break-even point somewhere, and a point somewhere up the Profit-Loss function where available capital is better used. Me like Yaesu radios, me no like Yaesu business plan.
     
  6. KD0CAC

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    Ya I've heard that before buying , but the 1st SDX came from a fellow club member with very little use and the computer control board new in box , for too good of a price .
    Then just got this 2nd one with issues , figured if nothing else , some spare parts , also at a ok price .
    But with a little bit of welding & cutting , I can repair the four layer gears and have a 2nd complete working unit .
    The only scary part is , that ham disease - I may have to keep looking for broken ones to fix , or parts ;)
     
  7. KD0CAC

    KD0CAC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Posting pictures , the 4 gears stack to make the main drive for rotor top - something bound it up and broke off one tooth and bent over the next , my intention is to use welder to fill in missing metal & grind / file the profile of the 2 missing teeth .
    So much for having spare parts , now a spare rotor .
     

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  8. W9GB

    W9GB Ham Member QRZ Page

    SINCE you are likely dealing with METRIC Gears, here is one knowledge source.
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    Elements of Metric Gear Technology
    http://www.sdp-si.com/resources/elements-of-metric-gear-technology/index.php#Section2
    Complete document (PDF)
    http://www.sdp-si.com/PDFS/Elements-of-Metric-Gear-Technology.pdf

    Small Parts (Florida), now a division of Amazon, formerly offered a wide variety of gears.
    There product catalog was reduced after Amazon's purchase.

    Here are "other sources" from my Rolodex.

    SDP/SI - Stock Drive Products / Sterling Instrument
    2101 Jericho Turnpike
    New Hyde Park, NY 11040
    Phone: (800) 819-8900 or (516) 328-3300
    http://www.sdp-si.com

    SDP/SI : Gear documents
    http://www.sdp-si.com/products/Gears/Index.php
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    Micro Fasteners (no gears, specialty nuts/bolts/etc.)
    http://www.microfasteners.com
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    Component Supply Company (no gears, speciality is tubing and plastics)
    http://www.componentsupplycompany.com
     
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  9. KD0CAC

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    Oh dang , now you just bumped several projects up a few notches on the list of things to do .
    One of which is HP 8640 sig gen , the plastic gears that are known for shrinking & cracking on the shaft .
    Thanks
     
  10. W9GB

    W9GB Ham Member QRZ Page

    SDP/SI can handle all of those projects -- many with "off-shelf" gear (no custom required).

    You could easily create replacement gear sets (volume) and
    sell for both HP 8640 and Yaesu rotators.
     

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