WWII HF communications reliability question

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  1. WA1GXC

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    "The Radio Operator"

    Excerpt from: US Army Air Forces-- B-17 Pilot Training Manual

    ((overview of aircrew duties))

    "There is a lot of radio equipment in todays's B-17's. There is one man in particular who is supposed to know all there is to know about this equipment.
    Sometimes he does, but often he doesn't. And when the radio operator's deficiencies do not become apparent until the crew is in the combat zone, it is
    then too late. Too often the lives of pilots and crew are lost because the radio operator has accepted his responsibility indifferently.
    "Radio is a subject that cannot be learned in a day. It cannot be mastered in 6 weeks, but sufficient knowledge can be imparted to the radio man during
    his period of training in the United States if he is willing to study. It is imperative that you check your radio operator's ability to handle his job before taking
    him overseas as part of your crew.........find any weakness in the radio operator's training and proficiency....
    "The radio operator who cannot perform his job properly may be the weakest member of your crew--and the crew is no stronger than its weakest member."

    The depiction of the situation report - SITREP- from the Japanese mission leader to his
    Command at sea was historically inaccurate in the movie Tora... It was not passed via
    voice . but on CW by means of the Japanese 'Katakana' code which is utilized in their
    language with something like 75 phonetic fragments which represent necessary syllables
    for most communications. "Tora Tora Tora" meant "Attack successful" and sent via CW,
    UI S
    UI S
    UI S

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  2. W4NNF

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    Yep, and a huge mistake it was...and it was the same not just with radios, but with everything including tanks and aircraft. ;)
  3. KA0HCP

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    [Hannah Reisch] A number of Americans who met her from the 30's on, had stated that she was extremely high strung and often agitated. Some though she was mentally unbalanced.

    Her 'test piloting" doesn't really amount to much. She never worked for any manufacturer, nor the Luftwaffe, and she had no higher education. She was never attached to any particular project for any length of time. Rather the Propaganda Ministry often used her occasional 'test flights" (often actually familiarization flights) as publicity opportunities. She was adept at currying favor at the highest levels of the Reich.

    On the other hand, she is regarded as one of the best ever glider pilots of either sex, to this day. She set numerous world records throughout her life.
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  4. WZ7U

    WZ7U Ham Member QRZ Page

    Shows what bat shit crazy can do in the modern age.
  5. N3HGB

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    The Nazis were fond of meth - maybe she was a tweaker.
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  6. NN3W

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    How different is that from the "go pills" given to USAF crews on long missions?
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  7. WZ7U

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    Caffeine vs meth maybe?

    Just asking, for myself.
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  8. N3HGB

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    Pretty much the same thing, except the Nazis did a LOT of it.
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  9. N3HGB

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    I used chocolate covered espresso beans on long night flights. All the caffeine, none of the liquid ;)
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  10. KA0HCP

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    Reisch was never in the military. Her behavior predates the use of methamphetamine in combat by over a decade.

    The "Go pills" used very rarely by the USAF is as I recall Modifinil. It is not an amphetamine, but in a class called Eugeroics that are Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors, DRI's. They have a low addictive potential.

    Recollection: In the 80's I had a Navy flight surgeon go along on several flights to observe our crew performance during long patrol missions. He said he was studying the potential use of a new drug to promote wakefulness if needed for extreme combat missions.

    To my knowledge the Navy has never implemented use of these drugs. However, in the 1950's and 60's, methamphetamine single dose was issued to pilots of AD/A-1 Skyraider pilots who practiced nuclear delivery missions of about 12 hours duration. The pill was taken prior to landing to wake them up. These flights were flown at extremely low levels of around 100-200 feet for 12 hours in a single pilot propellor plane that had no autopilot and no airconditioning. Extremely fatiguing.
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