I've been seeing a lot of TS-2000s for sale lately. I see IC-9100s occasionally. Both seem to have qualities I like, VHF/UHF built in, satellite full duplex capability, etc. From what I can tell, the TS-2000 still needs a USB sound card interface, but the 9100 doesn't (can anyone verify either of that?). I have a SignaLink USB box, wired for ICOM, but should only be a cable change if it were necessary for the TS-2000. So here goes. TS-2000x = no affordium. And likewise, a 9100 with the 23cm module = no affordium (I have no use for D-Star most of the time) But I can find both rigs without it, and despite what the internet says, there are instructions to load the 23cm module into the TS-2000 and 'make it' a TS-2000x. I would definitely have this done professionally, aligned, etc. But the modules are out there. Same is true for the IC-9100, though maybe it doesn't require as much pro-level work to get it in there. But I'd send either unit off to have it aligned and installed, and keep the techs in business. What I don't know about either rig, is if the 23cm add on could be GPS lockable. If not, I'd be better off getting a SG Labs transverter for around $230 that IS GPS lockable. Downside is, theirs is around 2w out. Both the Kenwood and ICOM ones claim 1-10w out (though if they are drifty, that isn't good). So to summarize, looking for advice: Get the ICOM or get the Kenwood? and why? Do I need a sound card interface with either rig? (only my 706s use it, all the others plug right in) Are the ICOM or Kenwoods GPS-lockable 23cm modules? Do both units do full duplex (I think they do)? The 9700 looks great, assuming it works as intended, but its price point will likely be sky high. Don't want to wait that long, and would like something on 23cm NOW. And for fun, I put a poll on this thread. Just curious what you'd use if you were in my choice. If ALL else were equal, Kenwood looks to be slightly cheaper. But I'd like 'it works better'. Only thing I heard about the TS-2000x a while back was a guy saying about his friends rig 'it needs a pre-amp to the pre-amp, its so deaf on 23cm'. Of course that could mean the guy was running 100ft of RG-58, so that's the only thing I've heard about it. Not that this would be my future EME rig, but I would like to at least have that 'ability' in the future. EME capable, I guess. And I'd like to have the rig drive 23cm into the higher end transverters 10-24 GHz, for example. I'll go SDR for some of that, but would be nice to play with some of it now.