OK, Let's agree that I am not "angry". I'm not really the angry type. Then let's take another look at something that happened earlier today. This is a direct quote from a spot page I frequent. So we have a minimum of 7 different signals in 4 different modes, presumably in different locations, and hopefully they are all in the receiving bandpass of the PIII station because they were all obliterated by the transmission. You tell me what happened. Listen or Not? Obviously, you can't always hear everything, but this ready excuse IS very convenient. To argue that it isn't, is just silly. edited to add: If you are implying that I think Albert is a lid, you could not be more wrong. I respect his opinions and agree that positive suggestions would definitely help. I usually do not spew the venom that has been common in these threads, but it is becoming more difficult to refrain from doing so. In almost every way possible, the users of this mode have left some of us whith the impression that they truly do not care what other hams think. But, we are supposed to offer postive solutions and be nice in the face of indifference.