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Discussion in 'Computers, Hardware, and Operating Systems' started by K4KWH, Mar 15, 2019.

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  1. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    And some plug-ins can themselves be "malware."
  2. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    No doubt.

    Then again, if you assume that every site and every plug-in are likely malware, your best approach is to just stay off the internet.
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  3. ND6M

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    I'm "pretty sure" that the OP has the same opinion of them too.
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  4. KK5JY

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    That may be... but I do share his disdain for Windows 10. I get a huge laugh out of all the comments suggesting to him that he "find an IT professional" to help him navigate Windows 10, when he was apparently more than capable of navigating Windows 7 just fine. That's like saying "tax returns are simple -- just hire a professional attorney to do them for you..." :rolleyes:

    I'm an IT professional myself, and I have gotten the screw from Windows 10 many times, even in carefully managed domain environments. So I'm actually on the OP's side with respect to his Win10-specific complaints.

    In the interest of full disclosure, I do keep a few Win7 VMs around, just in case I want to run something like EZNEC+, which will almost certainly never support Windows or even Wine. But they are light VMs with very little stuff installed in them. And the virtualization tools these days are certainly good enough that someone could run Win7 inside any Linux distro indefinitely, since the hardware is virtualized. I have used Win7 VMs inside Linux to program radios (some of them very old radios), run digimode software, etc. Win10 isn't the future for people who want a machine to "just work." Computer junkies will like all the "cool stuff" in Win10, but people who just want to get things done with low drama are largely moving to Apple, Android, and Linux. And the reason has to do with the kinds of things about which the OP opined.
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  5. WB2WIK

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    It's not brag-worthy, but Linux is often favored by geeks and developers for a couple reasons I can think of: Cost (free if you use a free disto without "support") and the ability to make changes to it.

    Mac is so protective they won't even sell the OS separately from hardware, at all.

    I have no problems with Win10, but then just use it as an office appliance for Outlook (Office365) and all the Office apps, and usually Chrome or Firefox as a browser. Only a few third-party apps on our office machines, like our MRP system which is Epicor or Macola or both, plus of course the Adobe suite, and a few have Avid stuff installed for A/V editing. They all run fine on Win10, didn't have to change anything.
  6. G0GSR

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    Yes me too.
    I gave it a fair go, dual booting with Linux and it was working nicely until its first major "update".
    It did this just as I was about to start a radio session and I couldn't stop it. Locked me out of my own computer for 90 minutes.

    After that:

    My sound card settings were changed. None of my radio apps worked anymore.
    I had removed as many "phone home" and "annoyance" features as I could, these were all back again.
    The proprietary USB driver for my Wavenode power meter had been uninstalled.
    How dare Windows screw with my own settings????

    So "fdisk" to Win10 from me and good riddance.
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  7. KA9JLM

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    Many of the new computers that come with Win 10 have been locked to that OS and most users are forced to use it.

    You have to jump thru hoops to change the OS.

    These types of Win 10 machines are cheap, Because they expect you to pay a monthly fee to use them.

    Just like the free cell phones and satellite boxes that you pay $100+ a month to use.
  8. VA3VF

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    Are you talking about Win 10 S? Unless MS still includes the option to switch to Win 10 Home, avoid S like the plague. Win 10 S is the 'me too version' to compete against the Chromebook.

    I have a Chromebook as well, if the plan is to use it as an internet appliance when travelling, my case, then it is ok, otherwise, avoid it as well.
  9. VA3VF

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    What does an informed user typically do? Thinks twice before clicking on that 'great' offer. Avoids unknown sites. Mainstream sites can be attacked, of course, but they normally keep things clean.

    Are you into 'warez'? Then sorry, you deserve all you get. Porn, let's not go there.

    I've been on the internet since 1992, I know very late, but never ever had to deal with a virus or any other malware on my own computers.

    Anti-virus, and all the other tools, were not designed for the irresponsible internet surfer. Those will continue to 'get caught'.

    Just like blind followers of GPS driving instructions, one still needs to use the rarest of 'commodities': commom sense.
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  10. AF6CO

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    When windows 10 was first launched I had a horrible experience with it and I reinstalled XP. Eventually I installed Win 10 on all of my computers prior to the free upgrade expiring. I've since become used to it, but I still don't trust it.

    Just last month I was using this computer, and when I finished I told it to install the update and restart. Much to my dismay it went belly up. My first impression was the mother board had given up the ghost and it was time to build a new computer. After some troubleshooting with ASUS they thought the hard drive had crashed. I put a new drive in it and no improvement. Then it seemed that the graphics card was the problem. I reinstalled the old drive and it came to live without the graphics card. Then just for fun I put the graphics card back in and it's been working ever since. (knock on wood)

    I cringe every time Win 10 updates. There have been a least a half dozen times when an update has crashed one of my computers.

    My biggest issue at the moment is all of the pop ups with Chrome and Firefox. It's driving me crazy. I'm not a fan of Microsoft Edge but it's the only browser that isn't plagued with the popups.

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