Why so much obsession with fat SSB?

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by W8AAZ, Mar 25, 2019.

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  1. K1VSK

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    Its not that different from taking up 2 spaces in a parking lot - “nothing in the rules” which prevents that either.
     
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  2. KA4DPO

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    That's fine, just don't do it at the expense of other amateurs. Lots of bandwidth for experimenting on 10, 6, 2, 70 cm, and up. Any wide mode that works on HF will work there and wont bother anyone.
     
  3. K3XR

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    In fact, there are a number of regulations, mostly at the municipal level, that prohibits a vehicle from occupying more than one space.


    "E. No person shall park a vehicle in any designated parking space, whether parallel, angled or otherwise, during the restricted or regulated time applicable to the parking zone in which such space is located so that any part of such vehicle occupies more than one such space or protrudes behind the markings designating such space, except that a vehicle which is of a size too large to be parked within a single designated parking space shall be permitted to occupy two adjoining parking spaces as long as it is parked in the center of both spaces. [Ord. 2007-09-072; Ord. 1999-04-020]."
    https://bellingham.municipal.codes/BMC/11.33.070
     
  4. WF4W

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    a very apt analogy.
     
  5. KA4DPO

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    It all comes down to good amateur practice as stated in part 97. Unfortunately, there are far too many hams these days who have no idea what good amateur practice is.
     
  6. KY5U

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    They are on CB and 2m now practicing. Hi Hi
     
  7. W4NNF

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    I don't expect or want hi-fi from SSB. But an equalizer can make the signal more intelligible...which is all I care about. ;)
     
  8. K1VSK

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    I was sure someone would find one. Sadly, even rules don’t prevent oblivious.
     
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  9. N1FM

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    Nobody has any idea what "good amateur practice" means because it's an artificial and totally subjective term which has no clear definition and is therefore legally unenforceable.


    1) Vagueness doctrine rests on the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. By requiring fair notice of what is punishable and what is not, vagueness doctrine helps prevent arbitrary enforcement of the laws. Laws are usually found void for vagueness if, after setting some requirement or punishment, the law does not specify what is required or what conduct is punishable.

    2) Under vagueness doctrine, a statute is also void for vagueness if a legislature's delegation of authority to judges and/or administrators is so extensive that it would lead to arbitrary prosecutions.

    Illustrative case law:

    See, e.g. Skilling v. United States, 130 S.Ct. 2896 (2010). In essence:


    (1) To satisfy due process, “a statute must define an offense with sufficient definiteness that ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited and [2] in a manner that
    does not encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement.

    The void-for-vagueness doctrine embraces these requirements.

    Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352, 357.
     
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  10. K1VSK

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    Not sure what your point is with respect to unnecessarily and intentionally created wide signals?

    See terms such as mutual respect, common courtesy, common sense, consideration, etc..., none of which are defined in case law consistently yet we should all know what they mean.
     
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