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Why does HRD have it's own forum?

Discussion in 'Logbooks & Logging Programs' started by AC0H, Aug 7, 2010.

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  1. N5MOA

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    I think it's a good idea. Thanks, David.

    I have most the software on my computer in the house, and only downloaded what I needed to run RTTY and for logging on the computer I use while mobile.

    Best of both worlds, imo. Your mileage, and opinion, may vary.

    Other than changing the settings in commander to match the radio I'm using, and entering my station info, there were no manuals to dig into. I think it is pretty straight forward and simple to use. There are, however, help guides, and David is just an email (or yahoo group post) away.

    As for most people not being interested in everything dxlab can do, you're probably correct. I don't use spot collector, pathfinder or propview. Some people do. I use commander for rig control for rtty/psk. Others do use it for rotor control etc.

    I used dxkeeper alone for a good while before I decided I needed more.

    Stand alone programs that work extremely well together to do as much, or as little, as each op deems necessary.

    The choice to download/not download, use all of/parts of those programs is up to the individual.

    I like choice.

    edit: apparently I was typing the same time David was. He answered better than I did.
  2. K4RKY

    K4RKY Ham Member QRZ Page


    (QUOTE) The choice to download/not download, use all of/parts of those programs is up to the individual.

    I like choice.

    That is my final answer. (ew that was bad!) I have tried many programs from MicroLog to DXlab to HRD. I have read many reviews on each before trying them. HRD best suits my individual needs. And as for bloated? I don't see it any more than many of the other programs. :D
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2010
  3. N5MOA

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    Yes it was.:D:eek::D

    The computer I use while mobile is and older Dell Inspiron 1000, Celeron CPU 2.2ghz, (with a whopping 256mb of ram) running XP Home Edition, 40gb hard drive, 30gb free.

    Typically while operating mobile, I have the Internet (via wireless card), dxkeeper, winwarbler, commander, dxview (there is a very slight bit of directivity off the right front corner of my pickup, enough to sometimes make a difference which way it is pointed) and cwget (it serves as a great poor mans band scope for finding holes in the dx stations cw pileup) all running at the same time with no problems.

    All with 256mb of ram.

    What bloat are people referring to? I'm not a computer whiz by any stretch of anyone's imagination, so maybe I just don't know what "bloat" is. I'm one of those who rely on people like David, and others, to come up with easy to use, well written software that works.

    All who take the time and effort to create software for amateur applications, and then offer them free to everyone, should be applauded, whether you like said software or not.

    Use Dxlab, use hrd, or any of the others out there that might meet your individual needs. If asked, I recommend Dxlab. Others recommend hrd or another program.

    Software is like radios, cars or shoes. Until you try them on, you won't know if it does what you want to do or not. Since most are free, that's easy to do.
  4. KB1NXE

    KB1NXE Ham Member QRZ Page

    Bloat is referred to as unnecessary or unwanted file size. In the discussion it referred to the amount of disk space the log file would take up.

    Hope this answers your question.

  5. AA6YQ

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    In this thread, the reference is to feature bloat, not log bloat:

    AC0H subsequently elaborated on his point:

    HRD does not suffer from feature bloat, in my opinion.
  6. KD8MJR

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    One thing I am not, is a Brown noser but I felt a need to defend the Forum on this one.

    You don't own this forum, neither do I; so you should just except the fact that whatever the Forums owner decides to do is entirely up to him or her and you have nothing to say about it. A phrase I have read on many other Forums seems apt to you. "If you don't like it go start your own!"

    Even if the Owner is doing it for business or personal gain, it's a good idea since HRD is the most popular Ham software on the market and QRZ is the most popular ham website, so the two go together very well.

    Maybe your involved with another piece of software on a business level, I don't know, but you can't expect a forum to give equal billing to all the minor software on the market. I am very happy that they support HRD, IMHO it's way above anything else I have used.
  7. AC0H

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    I have never said anything else. Apparently you weren't on the forums when each popular logging program had it's own "forum".

    Only to those who don't know any better. I have used it and just about every other logging program on "the market". HRD sure is pretty but thats about it.

    I am in NO WAY associated with any piece of Ham Radio software.
    Maybe you need to try something else rather than follow the herd.
  8. W4PG

    W4PG Super Moderator Lifetime Member 279 Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    I have personally used WriteLog, LOGic and DX Lab Suites over various times in the past, and even a couple of others thrown in.

    I currently use HRD because it does what I like well and I like the way it does it.

    The nice thing about logging programs is everyone is free to use which-ever they like. What works for me may not work for you and vice-versa.

    Additionally, I really don't see why having a forum for HRD is an issue. This is a private web site and the owner can do what he wants. That's what it boils down to in a nutshell. Anyone is free to use the website or not.

  9. K8JD

    K8JD Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't use any ham software, too expensive, don't use any freeware because I am afraid it may contain data miners, trojans or mal-ware virus.
    Why did I even read thru this therad ?
  10. AC0H

    AC0H Ham Member QRZ Page

    You are correct.
    Just wondered why we went from individual forums for the logging programs to everything but HRD piled into one. If the answer is that that's the way Fred wants it that fine by me but don't pretend that HRD is the second coming of logging programs because it clearly is not.
  11. WJ6R

    WJ6R Ham Member QRZ Page

    Any person or company that takes in revenue for their products is commercial software. HRD takes it by donations/subscriptions and we take it by orders at a fixed price.

    Dave, AA6YQ's DXLab is truly freeware. He doesn't ask for donations or charge like us or Simons.

    If you compare our usberbase to Simon's and Dave's, it would be about the same (around 20,000 users), with alot of duplication between the three. About 75% use my terminal programs in conjunction with DXLab, HRD, DX4Win etc.

    The ham market is so small, we developers have to work together.


    Rick W4PC
  12. AA6YQ

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    DXLab has been publicly available since 2000. There have been more than 50,000 new installations of DXLab from its distribution sites in the last three years alone.

    DXLab interoperates with MultiPSK, CW Skimmer, DM780, MixW; FLDigi, MMTTY, MMVARI, and MMSSTV; many ops employ these applications and use the DXLab Suite for transceiver control, logging, QSL route discovery, DX spot collection, and propagation prediction.

    If you're interested in making your application interoperate with DXLab, see

    Let me know if I can help...
  13. K2ZS

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    One click does nothing for me because I have never been able to get it to work with my Kenwood TS-690. It's a supported radio with definitions in the setup section and after trying repeatedly to get it to work I gave up on it. I made several posts to the HRD forum (his, not here) asking for assistance and never received any responses to my request for help.

    I have had it working with my FT-100 but that radio is now in service for mobile HF. Now I use it for my Icom PCR-1000 just for the band spread features.
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