I have no illusions why technical "users forum " exists on Internet. Helping users like me is the last item on their agenda irregardless if their official (tax?) status is "charitable organization ". I just read a note from a person who stopped contributing to one of such forums. Pretty sad reading when knowledgeable person realizes that he is being exploited under false pretenses of "distributing / supporting technology to (kindergarten ) masses " - making $ for forum "owner". Why am I posting in here ? I realize that amateur radio hobbyist are not synonymous with "computer geeks" and posting computer questions here will , and currently is, getting me unwanted "random noise" replies. ( Yes, one of the good contributors to my another discussion coined that expression - not my original !) The real question is - would private, " independent " forum , such as Yahoo or similar attract right clientèle or just spamers? Would it take way too much time to "administer"? So if you have experience running "forum" elsewhere I like to hear from you. And to the moderators - since this is really not about amateur radio I do apologize for posting it and would appreciate if you keep the discussion thread for limited time only. Of course it is your call. 73 Shirley PS with apologies to Bob Pease for the title.