WHO TAKES CARE OF THE FREQUENCIES OF RADIOAFFICIONADOS by HK6JSP

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  1. HK6E

    HK6E Ham Member QRZ Page

    [Google Translation posted for those who do not speak Spanish - scroll down - Mod]


    QUIEN CUIDA LAS FRECUENCIAS DE LOS RADIOAFICIONADOS…

    Con este enunciado quiero comenzar con un escrito que lleva tiempo rodando en mi inquieta mente…Permanentemente vemos como nuestros rangos son violentados, donde cualquier persona del común sin la mínima cortesía de radio se postra en el espectro y hace uso como si estuviesen en su casa…le ha pasado alguna vez?...

    Para entender muchas cosas primero debemos irnos a las leyes…OJO Dije leyes no recomendaciones internacionales por organizaciones de radio como la IARU.LA UIT, LA URE…,o cualquier entidad que trabaje o luche por los derechos de los Radioaficionados.
    Recordemos que cada país es soberano de sus leyes por ende son sus leyes, decretos o enunciados los que tienen validez así tengas licencia de la China o la Conchinchina…

    A los que orgullosamente decimos ser colombianos nos rige el Decreto 963 del 20 de marzo de 2009, compilado en un mamotreto de hojas en el Decreto 1078 del 26 de Mayo de 2015, donde se ubico estratégicamente para que nadie lo lea, igual pocos leen el anterior… Decreto que con orgullo se reformo en los años 2006-2007 y 2008 ..ojo por Radioaficionados…me incluyo, creo participe en un punto y coma y en un punto aparte…en ese entonces solo nos fijamos en que las licencias y los tramites de Asociaciones y Clubes o Ligas bajaran y nunca nos basamos en las buenas recomendaciones de las anteriores organizaciones internacionales y entramos a chocar con criterios como esa frecuencia es (+) o es (-)…léase bien página 18 del decreto 963… y después decimos que son frecuencias mal asignadas o mal invertidas como otros usan el termino… o haber dejado a los novicios o HJ por fuera de usar la banda de UHF, increíble que se haya pasado eso y solo 10 años después comenzamos muy orondos a reclamarle al MINTIC, por algo que nosotros mismos sugerimos les queda para estudiar y decir si estoy errado o no.

    Continuamos… el Decreto nos permite tramitar una licencia en diferentes categorías y diferentes posibilidades de explotar rangos asignados…lastimosamente muchos pensamos que compramos incluido dentro del trámite la propiedad de frecuencias y rangos o en determinados casos el uso sin autorizaciones…
    Si bien la licencia te permite hacer uso de algunas frecuencias simplex o punto a punto..ojo solo si es entre radioaficionados y temas de radio afición… dense una vueltica en 145.000 a 147.000 mhz, en 432.438 mhz o últimamente en 220 230 mhz…esta sobre poblado de estaciones y no propiamente radioaficionados …Quien es el culpable de ello? El Mintic el ANE?...

    EL MINTIC se basa en las denuncias puestas y traslada la solicitud y posterior revisión al ANE (Agencia Nacional del Espectro), quien deberá enviar funcionarios y equipos a verificar …Aclarado que ANE, es un organismo del estado adjunto al MINTIC y llegan al lugar donde se hace la violación del espectro y es una portería de un conjunto de casas de estrato X o Y…o el vigilante de la calle…o la microempresa que cree que usar equipos sin pagar frecuencias es más económico…muchas veces por ello mismo no se hacen las respectivas multas o visitas, sale más costoso el desayuno que el almuerzo…Como ejemplo real hace 2 años envié radicado al MINTIC y al ANE sobre una frecuencia que se usa en PEREIRA, un centro comercial (se envió dirección exacta, cuantos radios, que hablan, donde usan un radio base que se alcanza a escuchar desde la entrada de Cartago y santa rosa de cabal),con sus sucursales cercanas ,usan radios Baofeng banda abierta y funcionan en la frecuencia 145.000, tanto el MINTIC como el ANE respondieron que ya se había tomado la queja y que pronto harían lo correctivo, los invito a que programen la frecuencia y digan si lo hicieron o no…

    Continuemos y quien les programa las frecuencias o de donde salen los equipos, ese es el gran problema o error que cometemos muchos de nosotros cuando queremos deshacernos de esos radios que ya no utilizamos, los polinchamos y enciliconamos (términos que no existen pero ponen bonito un equipo)y se venden con el plus de escanea, podrá escuchar a los bomberos, la policía o taxis ..somos unos magos a la hora de vender…(ojala nadie se sienta molesto por el comentario).

    Si bien el plataformas como ALIEXPRESS…ALIBABA…EBAY y MERCADO LIBRE, venden sin restricciones de uso diciendo son frecuencias libres…ojo COLOMBIA no tiene frecuencias libres…su uso va restringido y autorizado a equipos homologados de muy poco potencia 0.5 w no 5 w, como la que traen…LEASE la resolución 2190 de 2003 y resolución 711 de 2016 del ANE Y por ultimo busquen el articulo 4257 del MINTIC , ningún Radio de procedencia china o banda abierta está homologado para dichas frecuencias , lean y dicen si estoy errado

    Hemos entrado de un paradigma de quien es culpable o no…ya cualquier persona tiene un radio de bandas corridas o abiertas como popularmente se conocen , donde se amplían bandas a 118 a 180 -200 -290-300-380-400-500 mhz, pasando por nuestros rangos con un simple cable y un software gratuito…
    Vienen los interrogantes…quien es culpable? El Min Tic, El Ane, Aliexpress..Los Radioaficionados…
    Es por ello que invito a todos los que lean este articulo hagan buen uso de las frecuencias, estudien los decretos y leyes que nos rigen…en el caso de Colombia nos rige el Decreto 963 del 20 de marzo de 2009, compilado en el Decreto 1078 del 26 de Mayo de 2015, no importa si la IARU dijo o no, ya que la respuesta del MINTIC fue...ante quien tramito su licencia…ante la IARU? O el MINTIC de su país…se que este último comentario podría molestar a muchos, pero es la realidad de cómo son las leyes de muchos países donde se aprueban infinidad de ellas, que no concuerdan con la realidad, podre ser incisivo al repetirlo decreto redactado por Nosotros y le echamos la culpa a otros.

    Como amigos, colegas e instituciones apoyémonos, juntos podemos más…el ejemplo comienza por casa y si vamos a exigir a los demás y a quienes nos rigen o controlan hagamos las cosas bien…

    Hoy comienzo mi campaña:
    • No venderé mis equipos a quien demuestre que NO es Radioaficionado.
    • Usare el espectro bajo la legalidad de las leyes.
    • Todo Radioaficionado es la extensión de mi Hobby, por lo tanto lo tratare bien y lo apoyare para que todo funcione en armonía.
    • Antes de decir algo de otro Radioaficionado filtrare toda la información y sacare conclusiones antes de juzgarlo…
    La Radio afición es un Hobby de personas respetuosas como lo enunciaba Paul Segall en su decálogo, pero ante todo somos personas que escogimos dejar todo lo que tenemos con un solo fin el de servir sin esperar nada a cambio…

    El anterior articulo no comparte la ideología ni parcial ni total de ninguna de las instituciones a las que pertenezco, por lo tanto asumo cualquier responsabilidad que pueda generar, dicho podrá ser reenviado, usado para fines ilustrativos si así lo quisiesen, siempre y cuando sea para buen beneficio y no el de entrar en discordias ni polémicas…

    Un abrazo para todos,
    Nahir Rios Jota HJ6JSP.
     
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  2. AG4RT

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    Demasiado tiempo, no leí
     
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  3. W7UUU

    W7UUU Principal Moderator Lifetime Member 133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Google translate for the rest of us - NOT MY COMMENTS - just a translation from Google Translate of the OP

    Dave
    WUUU




    WHO TAKES CARE OF THE FREQUENCIES OF RADIOAFFICIONADOS by HK6JSP

    With this statement I want to start with a writing that has been rolling in my restless mind for a long time ... We permanently see how our ranks are violated, where any person of the common without the minimum radio courtesy prostrates on the spectrum Do you use it as if you were at home ... has it ever happened to you? ...

    To understand many things we must first go to the laws ... EYE I said laws not international recommendations by radio organizations such as IARU.LA ITU, LA URE ..., or any entity that works or fights for the rights of Amateur Radio .
    Let us remember that each country is sovereign of its laws, therefore it is its laws, decrees or statements that are valid even if you have a license from China or Conchinchina ...

    Those of us who proudly say we are Colombians are governed by Decree 963 of March 20, 2009, compiled in a sheet of paper in Decree 1078 of May 26, 2015, where it was strategically located so that no one reads it, just as few read the previous ... Decree that was proudly reformed in the years 2006-2007 and 2008 ... eye for Amateur Radio ... I include myself, I think participate in a semicolon and a separate point ... at that time we only look at the licenses and procedures of Associations and Clubs or Leagues go down and we never rely on the good recommendations of the previous international organizations and enter to collide with criteria such as that frequency is (+) or is (-) ... read well page 18 of decree 963 ... and then we say that they are frequencies badly assigned or badly inverted as others use the term ...or having left the novices or HJ outside of using the UHF band, incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not .It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 Years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years Later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.It is incredible that this has happened and only 10 years later we began to complain to the MINTIC, for something that we suggest they have left to study and say if I am wrong or not.

    We continue ... the Decree allows us to process a license in different categories and different possibilities of exploiting assigned ranges ... unfortunately many of us think that we buy included in the process the ownership of frequencies and ranges or in certain cases the use without authorizations ...
    Although the license allows you make use of some simplex or point-to-point frequencies ... only if it is between radio amateurs and radio hobby themes ... give yourself a Vueltica in 145,000 to 147,000 mhz, in 432,438 mhz or lately in 220 230 mhz ... it is over populated with stations and not properly amateur radio ... Who is to blame for it? The Mintic the ANE? ...

    The MINTIC is based on the complaints filed and transfers the request and subsequent review to the ANE (National Spectrum Agency), who must send officials and equipment to verify ... Clarified that ANE, is a state agency attached to the MINTIC and arrive at the place where the violation of the spectrum is made and it is a goal of a set of houses of stratum X or Y ... or the watchman of the street ... or the microenterprise that believes that using equipment without paying frequencies is more economical ... many times for this reason it is not they make the respective fines or visits, breakfast is more expensive than lunch ... As a real example 2 years ago I sent to the MINTIC and the ANE about a frequency used in PEREIRA, a shopping center (exact address was sent, how many radios, that speak,where they use a base radio that can be heard from the entrance of Carthage and Santa Rosa de Cabal), with their nearby branches, use open band Baofeng radios and operate at 145,000 frequency, both the MINTIC and the ANE responded that they had already I have taken the complaint and they would soon do the corrective, I invite you to schedule the frequency and say if they did it or not ...

    Let's continue and who programs the frequencies or where the equipment comes from, that is the big problem or mistake that many of us make when we want to get rid of those radios that we no longer use, we pollinate and enciliconamos (terms that do not exist but make a beautiful equipment) and they are sold with the scan plus, you can listen to the firemen, the police or taxis ... we are magicians when it comes to selling ... (hopefully nobody feels upset about the comment).

    While platforms such as ALIEXPRESS ... ALIBABA ... EBAY and FREE MARKET, sell without restrictions of use saying they are free frequencies ... eye COLOMBIA does not have free frequencies ... its use is restricted and authorized to approved equipment of very low power 0.5 w no 5 w, as they bring ... READ resolution 2190 of 2003 and resolution 711 of 2016 of the ANE And finally look for article 4257 of the MINTIC, no Radio of Chinese origin or open band is approved for these frequencies, read and say if I am wrong

    We have entered of a paradigm of who is guilty or not ... and any person has a radius of bands run or open as they are popularly known, where bands are extended to 118 to 180 -200 -290-300-380-400-500 mhz, passing through our ranges with a simple cable and free software ...
    The questions come ... who is guilty? The Min Tic, El Ane, Aliexpress ... The Amateur Radio ...
    That's why I invite everyone who reads this article to make good use of the frequencies, study the decrees and laws that govern us ... in the case of Colombia, the Decree governs us 963 of March 20, 2009, compiled in Decree 1078 of May 26, 2015, it does not matter if the IARU said or not, since the response of the MINTIC was ... to whom I process your license ... before the IARU? Or the MINTIC of your country ... I know that this last comment could annoy many, but it is the reality of how are the laws of many countries where they are approved infinity of them, that do not agree with the reality, I can be incisive when repeating it written decree for us and we blame others.

    As friends, colleagues and institutions let us support each other, together we can more ... the example starts at home and if we are going to demand from others and those who govern or control us, do things right ...

    Today I start my campaign:
    • I will not sell my equipment to anyone who demonstrates that It is NOT Amateur Radio.
    • I will use the spectrum under the legality of the laws.
    • All Amateur Radio is the extension of my Hobby, therefore I will treat it well and support it so that everything works in harmony.
    • Before saying something about another Amateur Radio I will filter all the information and draw conclusions before judging it…
    The Radio hobby is a Hobby of respectful people as stated by Paul Segall in his decalogue, but first of all we are people who chose to leave everything we have for a single purpose to serve without expecting anything in return ...

    The previous article does not share the ideology neither partial nor total of any of the institutions to which I belong, therefore I assume any responsibility that I may generate, said may be forwarded, used for illustrative purposes if they so wish, provided it is for good profit and not to enter in discord or controversy ...

    To hug for everyone,
    Nahir Rios Jota HJ6JSP.


     
  4. KA8NCR

    KA8NCR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Quizas. Pero este operador tiene ideas buenas. Una codidgo de responsabilidad a seguir, y las normas a apoyar la fraternidad.

    Sabes, sentido comun.
     
  5. AG4RT

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    Si
     

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