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Where Never Is Heard... ARRL Board "Code of Conduct" on HamRadioNow

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KN4AQ, Dec 4, 2017.

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  1. NL7W

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    Squelching dissent, or even the appearance of dissent, keeps power in the hands of old and or senior ARRL board members and leaders.
    Don't expect openness from the ARRL... you'll never find it.
     
  2. WD0BCT

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    Quite frankly this is typical of large organizations representing "citizen" groups. They spend a lot of effort creating the illusion that they represent members. And to a small extent they do. But they have other agendas that take priority. And if elected officers don't support specific agendas they can get in hot water. I am a member of two such organizations...the ARRL being one of them. Although I dislike the negative aspects of both organizations they do provide a limited level of representation. And limited representation is better than NO representation.
     
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  3. WY7BG

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    This is an endemic problem with "nonprofit" organizations in the US. The law doesn't require them to actually put their members' interests, or their chartered purposes, first. And so, it may not take long before the organization begins putting itself (and its officers and staff) first... and its members a distant second. Even writing strong restrictions or "poison pills" into an organization's bylaws may not help. The only thing that does seem to make a difference is economic pressure. That's why I will not join this organization, or pay dues to it, until it makes members' interests a priority again.
     
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  4. W1YW

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    I am not convinced that the board members are in any way 'putting themselves first'. However, they obviously support an agenda for which dissent is not being accepted, IMO. What is a serious issue is their failure to explain the basis for their decisions, specifically with respect to various leadership issues.

    HR555 is a major disaster as presently worded, but the board continues to support it as written, despite the fact that the failures of wording were brought to their attention. It is my understanding that Bob, K3RF was one of those who made the problems clear to the board. And now Bob's position as assistant director expires at the end of the month; he has been declined to be allowed to run for director, and has not been provided the reason(s) for that decision; and HR555 continues to loom as the killer of ham radio as we know it in the United States....

    I feel it is very unfortunate that the board continues to support HR555 despite voluminous legal opinion showing that the wording is factually fatal for ham radio antennas in most of the land within the United States. That legal professionals who deal specifically with antennas--such as K3RF and K1VR-- have been discounted in that assessment indicates a very serious problem indeed, IMO, at the board level.

    Bob, K3RF has the highest ethical standards and is it important that the alleged 'board' decision to forbid his director run NOT be interpreted as a 'Bob' problem, IMO.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  5. N4QX

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    Having served as the Product Review Editor for the then and still Editor from 2002-2003, I am reasonably certain that this specific and similar ad placements were not the Editor's call.
     
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  6. W4HM

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    Nothing personal but I have to politely disagree with you.

    Limited representation, which in my personal opinion really means "LOUSY" representation, is worse than no representation at all.

    Look at the ARRL debacle concerning the flawed bills in both houses of the U.S. Congress over the CC&R and HOA thing. The bills are very flawed and will hurt many hamateurs if the U.S. Senate also passes it's version of the of bill. Yet the ARRL doubled down on the flawed language 2 years in a row. To me that's arrogance and incompetence.

    I have disagreed with virtually all of their attempted changes to our great hobby for at least the past 10 years. Another crazy idea of theirs is regulation by bandwidth instead of by mode, which would destroy all of the digital modes sub bands.

    I gave them many chances during the past 10 years. But I finally dumped my ARRL membership permanently earlier this year after many years as a member when my renewal showed up in the mail box.

    I'm not trying to be political but I just have to say that dumping the ARRL felt almost as good as re-registering from being a 44 year Republican to an Independent, after their B.S in the 115th U.S. Congress.:)

    Just saying.


    73 & GUD DX,
    Thomas F. Giella, W4HM
    Lakeland, FL, USA

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  7. WY7BG

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    I agree. The bill should be rewritten to instruct the FCC to extend its OTARD rules to amateur radio equipment.
     
  8. AA5AZ

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    Gary, it has been my experience in Ham Radio clubs in general, that you're supposed to just shut up and vote for the single person that is offered on the ticket for the election.
     
  9. K8NY

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    Very well said comrade! Do svidaniya!
     
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  10. WD0BCT

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    I've never registered with a political party....51 years as an independent.
    I am a lifetime member of two organizations that were very different when I made the commitment years ago. If I had to commit today I'm not sure if would join either of them.
     

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