What is this antenna on my neighbor's roof?

Discussion in 'Antennas, Feedlines, Towers & Rotors' started by AE4AW, Nov 23, 2018.

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  1. AA7QQ

    AA7QQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    With a real TV antenna, I get 94 channels. My neighbor gets 21 with that antenna. Both the same height.
    The reason that an old TV antenna works, is that it is Log-Periodic. Hence, all elements are connected. These new ones just have 1 element connected & a WIDE amplifier to hopefully get you some TV.

    Ed
     
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  2. WB2WIK

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    Just because it's made in China doesn't mean you'll be hungry an hour later.

    But, that is possible.
     
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  3. NH7RO

    NH7RO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Just don't use chopsticks for the elements and you'll be golden.
     
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  4. KJ6ZOL

    KJ6ZOL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Channel Master makes some really good long range HDTV antennas. If anybody is not near a Fry's Electronics, simply order one from their website. They make antennas advertised for up to 75 mile range. That's probably just marketing, of course, but from what I can tell they're far more than the mini antennas like in the OP.

    If you paired a good Channel Master long range antenna with a third party amplifier, and put it on the top of a 30 or 40 foot guyed mast, you would have one hayy of a OTA HDTV system. Considering topography, you might pull in quite a large number of stations outside your local operating area. Add a rotor and you would be a god to your neighbors, and maybe get them to "cut the cord" too. Great way to mention HR to them as well.

    Of course, many people have the HOA jerks to worry about. Some tracts forbid ALL external antennas. I figure that the local outlet of Big Cable shells out lots of money to developers to get such rules in place. During the real estate boom in the 2000s my cousin bought a townhouse in Reno that had such a HOA rule, then the HOA apparently had some sort of dispute with the cable provider and the cable co cut off all service to the tract. Her very expensive TV was a paperweight for a while, and she was forced into dialup internet.
     
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  5. NH7RO

    NH7RO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Channel Master and Winegard were the gods of my universe when I was a kid; always fun to see dx tv stations roll in via occasional sporadic E with one of them turned by an Alliance U-100 on the roof...
     
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  6. K9STH

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    ZOL:

    Over the air antennas CANNOT be excluded by any HOA, city ordinance, and so forth. Federal regulations banning any such exclusion were enacted a number of years ago. It does not matter if CC&Rs were in the deed restrictions or HOA agreements, those such restrictions were nullified by Federal law.

    Glen, K9STH
     
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  7. N2EY

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    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The OTARD ruling has some limitations on OTA TV antennas:

    1) Historic districts can prohibit them.

    2) There are limits on the size, height and placement of the antennas and support structures.

    3) The antennas can be prohibited if the HOA provides "free" community antenna service which covers the same OTA channels.

    4) OTA antennas cannot be installed unless needed to receive TV meant for the area. IOW, a person in my town who lives in an HOA can install an OTA antenna to receive Philadelphia TV, but can't use the preemption to put up an antenna to get New York stations.


    OTARD did not nullify all restrictions on OTA antennas. What it did was to provide specific preemptions of the restrictions.

    73 de Jim N2EY
     
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  8. W2GIW

    W2GIW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Check the Winegard site and also Solid Signal.
    Good info.
    Ken, W2GIW
     
  9. KS2G

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    Details are on the FCC web site:
    Over-the-Air Reception Devices Rule
    https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule

    Note: FCC web site will shut-down tomorrow (January 3rd) due to the partial government shut-down.
     
  10. W2WDX

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    These types of antenna are only effective (and intended to be used) in areas where Digital TV is broadcast in the UHF around ~500-800. Using one for VHF low-band is not gonna work very well. If your local TV station is still operating in the stone age running analog, buy an old school log-P. For instance, WCBS here in New York is running 1080p digital on UHF ch33.
     

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