I don't have to quantify it. Why should I? We are really talking about our impressions, not trying to prove something for a thesis. I know what it was like before and I know what it's (yes, usually) like now. Licensed ham numbers mean absolutely nothing. How many of those get a license either for possible EMCOM or just on a lark, maybe get an HT, find there are few people to talk to locally and even less reason to talk to those, put it away and rarely or maybe never touch it again?