Warning: Elecraft KX3 and Accessories

Discussion in 'Stolen Radios, Scams and Rip-Offs' started by AA7BQ, Oct 16, 2018.

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  1. AA7BQ

    AA7BQ QRZ Founder Administrator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    This is a special swapmeet administrative thread. Replies and comments ARE allowed.


    It has come to our attention that scammers are still trolling the swapmeet area and they are making direct contact with our members outside of the website. Why is this article titled Elecraft KX3 and Accessories? Its because that was the title of the scammer's email of a false offer. For some reason, the Elecraft brand of gear seems to be a new favorite for scammers. Perhaps owing to its popularity and higher average price, we have noted that the brand Elecraft comes up in scam reports frequently.

    In a recent scam attempt, the scammer watched the comments and buyer-seller conversations on the board and then independently contacted one of its participants via email with a fantastic offer for an Elecraft KX3 setup. Fortunately, this user was astute and quickly recognized the "scamminess" of the materials provided and no deal ensued.

    My worry is that others may not be as lucky, because it's a safe bet that the scammer had no KX3 in his possession. Despite this, the lure of possibly getting a great deal on one can be irresistible for some.

    Here are a few suggestions that might save you a couple of thousand dollars:

    1. Be wary of anyone who contacts you via email offering something for sale.
    2. Know that any time you post a Want To Buy (WTB) online that a scammer WILL review it and target you.
    3. Know that scammers always have exactly what you're looking for.
    4. When conducting private deals outside of QRZ, consider adopting some of the same rules we have, i.e. demand photos with call signs.
    5. Do not deal with widows, children, family members, etc., who are selling off an SK estate unless you can meet them face-to-face.
    6. Under NO Circumstances, never, ever, send payment to other than the FCC call sign address.
    7. Never send payment to a third party. Not ever.
    8. Got Skype? Ask the seller to join you in a Skype video chat, and show you the gear.

    I surely hope that more people will read this and take great pause in dealing with unsolicited offers for ham equipment over the internet.

    73, -fred AA7BQ
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  2. W5DPH

    W5DPH Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Thanks Fred.
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  3. BG4CZU

    BG4CZU Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks for reminding!
  4. YV5MKI

    YV5MKI Ham Member QRZ Page

    thanks 73
  5. KE0XS

    KE0XS Subscriber QRZ Page

    Thanks for mentioning SKYPE great idea
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  6. NH7R

    NH7R Ham Member QRZ Page

    Great advice, Fred!
  7. AG6ZZ

    AG6ZZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here's another tip: Don't simply write your call sign on a piece of paper in your ad. It is too easy to edit your picture and write a different call sign using any picture editing tool. Instead, take a picture of something with your call sign, like a badge, embroidered hat, wood block, or text in the display of your item for sale.

    Another thing to keep in mind: The scammers are reading these messages to see what we're doing to protect ourselves, and are clever enough to circumvent our best efforts. So, don't be lazy about keeping us all safe.
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2018
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  8. KF2E

    KF2E XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I made a cautionary comment on this ad and it was removed. Should we not comment when an ad is obviously a problem?

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  9. K9ZMD

    K9ZMD Subscriber QRZ Page

    Good stuff, Fred, but don't you think one of them, due to slight ambiguity, might be overly "exclusive"?

    "6. Under NO Circumstances, never, ever, send payment to other than the FCC call sign address."

    That seems to cut out almost all buyers outside of the USA, which I suspect is not the intent. Although the FCC ULS can be considered a reliable verification of address, it is not the only way to go. It may only take a few minutes with an on-line search engine to verify the address of a potential non-US buyer. So, how about this, instead?

    That "friend or relative in NJ" (or wherever) is a red flag. Never send payment to an address that you cannot independently verify actually belongs to the potential buyer.
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  10. WB2LBV

    WB2LBV Ham Member QRZ Page

    IMO the rules should include either a requirement, or a very strong recommendation, that personal contact info NOT be posted in FS or Wanted ads, and contact referenced to their QRZ profile email or a private message. This would eliminate the ability for non-member scammers browsing the classifieds to make contact with prospective victims, since only logged-in members can see profile emails or send PM's. Many people here do not realize that the forums, including the classifieds, are public and can be read by anyone on the internet.
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