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  1. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi All,

    I know "Google" is supposed to be my friend, but not this time.

    I am looking for replacement tips for a 23 Watt (Model 535-S) heating element. The TIPS themselves would have threads. Most places I have found on Google only want to sell the entire heating element, which I have, but don't have the replacement tips! I can't believe it is so hard, and I don't want to but a lot of 100. I believe Weller may have bought Ungar at some point, but local stores (F**'s) only have Weller replacement parts, which don't fit; they are too large. Does anyone know where the proper Ungar tips can be obtained? It shouldn't be so difficult.
     
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  2. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not familiar with that part, but could you use a threaded copper wire or brazing wire?

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
  3. KF5FEI

    KF5FEI Ham Member QRZ Page

    Old school. Radio Shack had them -- I'll bet Allied still sells them.
     
  4. K1MMI

    K1MMI Ham Member QRZ Page

    ebay has NOS Ungar soldering tips.
     
  5. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    You can thread some wire and make your own.
     
  6. WA5VGO

    WA5VGO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ungar was bought out by Weller. Weller still supports many of the old Ungar products.
     
  7. W9GB

    W9GB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Larry,

    Yes, Weller purchased Ungar in 1996. When RoHS occurred in 2002/2003 (California adopted before USA, at same time as Europe and Japan), Weller had to make product selection decisions.
    Some of Weller’s production tooling dated back to 1950s (Easton, PA), Ungar and Weller tooling often involved Lead (Pb). So the capital $$ was significant and some models ended (Ungar Princess, Weller EC series, Ungar 9000-series, Weller WCC-100, etc.), while others had reduced tip selections or options.

    The Ungar Modular Iron Handles (Standard Series): 7400, 7500, 7760 and 7770,
    featured modular heaters available in three (3) varieties:
    Thread-on (PL1xx tips), Thread-in (PL3xx tips) and Integral tip with heater.
    The Thread-in design (1/8” tip) is not as popular today ... largely due to seizing/galling,
    a larger tip selection available with thread-on heaters.

    ==
    GOOGLE SEARCH PHRASES: Ungar PL soldering tips ; Weller PL soldering tips
    =
    MarVac Electronics in Costa Mesa, CA should be on your Speed-Dial list.
    https://marvac.com/

    Ungar/ Weller PL-331, $5.30
    http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-pl331-tip-pencil-plated-01-cone.html
    Ungar / Weller PL-333, $4.90
    http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-pl333-tip-chisel-plated-13.html
    Ungar / Weller PL-338, $5.70
    http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-pl338-tip-tapered-needle-plated-05.html

    PL100 TIP, PRECISION ELEC, .05
    PL111 TIP, PENCIL PLATED, .03
    PL113 TIP, CHISEL PLATED, .13
    PL114 TIP, MICRO SPADE PLATED, .05
    PL133 TIP, LONG TAPER, CHISEL PLATED, .15
    PL138 TIP, TAPERED NEEDLE PLATED, .05
    PL151 TIP, SCREWDRIVER, PLATED, .13
    PL153 TIP, CHISEL PLATED, .07
    PL155 TIP, STEPPED CHISEL PLATED, .07

    PL331 TIP, PENCIL PLATED, .01 CONE
    PL333 TIP, CHISEL PLATED, .13
    PL338 TIP, TAPERED NEEDLE PLATED,.05
    PL350 TIP, CHISEL PLATED, .40

    100UG ADAPTER, 1/8 INCH TIP (Permits thread-on heater to use 1/8” thread-in tips).
     
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  8. WA7PRC

    WA7PRC Ham Member QRZ Page

    In the 1970s, I used to have one of those (everyone did). This iron uses a 23W non temperature-controlled heater, and the tips aren't grounded.

    OTOH, my Weller WES51 (link) produces up to 50W, is temperature-controlled (and adjustable), and the tip is grounded. Moreover, there are a number of different iron-clad ET-series tips available for a modest cost from every distributor on the planet. The WES51 can be had for about $100 and tips run about $5 each (less, if you shop around). There are similar units, too.
     
  9. W9GB

    W9GB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Weller / Ungar Catalog (circa 2000), page 15
    http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/008c/0900766b8008c698.pdf#page15

    From the 1960s to 1990s Ungar manufactured two (2) sizes of Threaded Soldering Tips.
    1/8 inch (0.125”) and 3/16 inch (0.1875”).

    Ungar 4045(S) Standard heater uses 3/16" Thread-IN soldering tips.

    ALLIED RADIO CARALOG (1965, page 385) : Ungar Soldering page
    http://www.byan-roper.org/steve/_Media/ungar-allied-1965.tiff

    Lafayette Electroncs Catalog (1965, page 443) : Ungar page
    http://www.byan-roper.org/steve/_Media/ungar-lafayette-1965.tiff
     
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2017
  10. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    My replacement tip would be to buy a new Weller.

    You should not cheap out if you want to make good solder joints.

    For wood burning, Old school is good.
     
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