Tour the Russian 'Woodpecker' (DUGA): Featured in CNN Travel News

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  1. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Never thought we'd see the day that the Woodpecker was a tourist destination, but, that day has come.

    The story talks about the OTHR 'search'aspects but not the focused EMP 'weapon' aspect. Thank goodness it doesn't talk about mind control with the Duga.

    FYI the DUGA is not capable of being operational, as you will see in the story. It will not join the OTHR interference crud presently spewed by Russia, China, and others.

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    https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/duga-radar-chernobyl-ukraine/index.html

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    The picture didn't post from that news story. Not my fault. Here it is:

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    The elements are wire cage (biconical) dipoles with a ground plane backing.

    It is (was) a massive HF array.

    Wanna figure out the TX power (roughly) in weapon mode? :

    Chernobyl FULL power output x average Gain of Duga across passband x 20 (for focussing).

    Then divide by 3 (roughly) for TX inefficiencies, and power lines and transmission line losses. Or do a sensitivity analysis.

    HF- based (EMP) zapping.

    Scary stuff.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  2. WB5WPA

    WB5WPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    re: "Chernobyl FULL power output x average Gain of Duga across passband x 20 (for focussing)."

    And yet, they still managed to 'power' nearby cities ...

    BTW, I haven't seen any video, pics of the transmission lines from Chernobyl to Duga, so, let that be the basis for my doubt about the really "high" power involved ...

    (There ought to be a really GOOD_SIZED substation, still existing, on the grounds of 'Duga' too.)
     
  3. N7XCZ

    N7XCZ Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Where do I connect MY RADIO!!!! :)
     
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  4. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Nope. in attack mode, the power goes to the Duga.

    Do some more research. Its out there. Chernobyl was built for the Duga. The 'cities', where the employees lived, were a secondary issue and a cover.

    The attack 'weapon' mode was , apparently, only tested at partial power, and failed. Thus began the saga of the coverup. And the story of the Chernobyl disaster.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  5. WB5WPA

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    re: "Do some more research."

    Did. Where's the substation? The BIG substation for this application?

    (You're buying the 'hype', I'd say.)

    You know, these 'things' to have been real, they have to exist in the real world, not just inside your own mind, or in the mind a 'film producer' to have actually worked. Physical devices have had to have been used to create these HUGE amounts of power - surely you comprehend that aspect?

    So, show me the remains of that infrastructure.
     
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  6. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    If I'm buying hype, then we are all in trouble:)

    OK for you to disagree. FB.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  7. DL6FB

    DL6FB Ham Member QRZ Page

    On wikipedia is fine high-resolution picture. Here you see big structures underneath the left Antenna Array

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._Radar_Array_near_Chernobyl,_Ukraine_2014.jpg

    Personally i think that the Powerplant Tschernobyl is not build for the Duga. Also think they dont blow the full power from the Reactors to the Duga. The Power seems to high for this Antennas. Many of the knowledge about the Duga is urban-legend i think.
    Nevertheless already he Duga-1 was heavy on Air, i remember the times of the Woodpecker, many of the Radios from this time have an Noiseblanker for this reason.
    73 de DL6FB
    Frank
     
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  8. WN1MB

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  9. WD4HXG

    WD4HXG Ham Member QRZ Page

    The one that will make a grown man cry is the destruction of the towers at VOA's old transmit
    site in Eastern NC. VOA foisted it off on the University of North Carolina system and UNC in
    turn had a demolition company set charges to drop the towers. That was one massive high
    beam steering array that would have turned a 100 watt Heathkit into a mouse that roared.

    https://www.icqpodcast.com/news/2016/4/17/implosions-removes-48-surplus-voa-towers

    In the 1960's rumor was you could replace the engine in a Volkswagen Beetle with an electric
    motor, mount a diode on the motor lid and drive around the area using free power from VOA.
     
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  10. G4LZD

    G4LZD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Never mind where do I connect my radio - is there anywhere I can hang m mother-in-law? Gotta be a good view up there
     
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