Tough car to stick an antenna on, ideas?

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  1. KF2Q

    KF2Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have a late model Ford Edge. There is nothing metal on the top, it's all glass and plastic. No place for a magnet mount or even to drill a hole. Just need a 2 meter antenna, no big deal. Anybody done this with an Edge, or have any ideas?
     
  2. KE5MC

    KE5MC Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I have used the following lip mount on a Ford Escape and a couple of years back moved it to a Toyota Prius.

    Diamond K412CNMO Trunk Lip Mount

    No issues for me. I did discovery after purchase/install of a new mobile radio my old radio had declining sensitivity I had not noticed. No fault of the mount or antenna. I live in a repeater rich environment so the compromise position and mechanical attachment is offset by ease of installation and low impact to the vehicle.
     
  3. K0BG

    K0BG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well, the D pillar isn't plastic, but you'd have to drill a hole. So...

    If I were faced with installing a dual bander or similar (such as a Larsen NMO2/70BK), I'd use an NMO mount as close to the top of the pillar as possible, but avoiding the curvature at the top. Then I'd just bend the whip vertical near the base. Not ideal in a purist mind, but workable nonetheless.

    Let me add this. Installing a lip or clip mount on any late-model Ford, is almost impossible, as there is almost no metal door edge to clamp to! Further, the seam clearance around the doors and hatches will hardly allow a simple angle bracket, much less a clip mount.
     
  4. KF2Q

    KF2Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    D pillar won't work. Mine has an almost entirely glass roof, way out to the outer edges.
     
  5. KG0YS

    KG0YS Ham Member QRZ Page

    The Edge has a pretty flat hood, doesn't it? I've frequently used mag-mount antennas on the hood, pretty close to the windshield.
     
  6. KK4YDR

    KK4YDR Ham Member QRZ Page

  7. K0BG

    K0BG Ham Member QRZ Page

    The D Pillar (that is the left rear roof support) is not plastic, it is steel. You might look on Ford's police package site, and look what the factory does.

    As for the glass mount, forget it. The Edge has passivated glass all around, which stops the RF from penetrating the glass. As a result, the coax does the majority of the radiating, and not well at that.
     
  8. KF2Q

    KF2Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not legal in my state, plus I don't care to have my car looking like I'm auditioning for Storm Chasers.
     
  9. W9GB

    W9GB Ham Member QRZ Page

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    Last edited: Feb 17, 2015
  10. KK4YDR

    KK4YDR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yeah, I would just suggest selling the car and getting a metal car if your hobby is important enough.

    OR...

    Go to a fab shop, probably a really good CB shop and have them install a huge steel or Al plate right under your plastic roof. Then you can make some kind of mount that penetrates the plastic and the sheet metal will offer a substantial ground plane.

    HF forget it but VHF/UHF you should be okay.
     
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