Many threads, posts, and other commetaries about bringing CB'ers into ham radio have waxed and waned over the years. I've been in and out of them. Finally, after pondering it for a while came up with this. Seems to be a pretty good 'fit' for explaining WHY quite a few CB'ers come into ham radio and thrive, grow, and become very good additions to the ham radio world while others don't. See what you think. K3FT The problem is *NOT* one of 'CB'ers being recruited to come up and become licensed Amateur radio ops'. NOR is it REALLY concerned with the introduction of CB'ers to ham radio as a way to have a much larger playing field. What it BOILS DOWN TO IS THIS. THERE ARE TWO GROUPS! Group #1 is composed of CB'ers who come to ham radio and CHOOSE (note.. CHOOSE) to recognize that the Amateur radio world is different AND who then CHOOSE to accept that they will have to learn new operating procedures, protocols, jargon, slang, and the like will be welcomed and encouraged. THEY who CHOOSE to accept that they are going to have to LEARN and ADJUST to the culture that ham radio is composed of will do quite well. They MAY have learned habits on CB and bring them to ham radio. BUT.. THE CRITICAL DIFFERENCE IS THIS!!!. They CHOOSE to learn to delete those habits and mannerisms and replace them with those which are the NORM for Amateur radio so as to learn, and grow, and become part of the ham radio world. THESE FOLKS are most welcome and are DEFINTELY ENCOURAGED! In fact.. almost ALL of the 'CB to Ham' radio convertees who recognized, acknowledged, and accepted the above HAVE assimiliated well into ham radio. MANY of the people who post on this reflector ARE sterling proof that this is true. HOWEVER!! What we have had... and STILL have.. are people who CHOOSE to operate CB using those things which are NOT part of the Amateur culture, program, or within the parameters that define normal Amateur radio practice. GROUP #2 are those CB'ers who either learned all the Classic 'CB bad habits' by imitation OR emulation and then CHOSE to operate that way. They then come to ham radio and import those habits into their ham radio operations. Folks TRY to assist them by helping them recognize that these habits and mannerisms ARE NOT what belong in ham radio. BUT!! instead of the importee being WILLING to accept, acknowlege, and CHOOSING to adjust they just say ( in so many words) "F.U! I will do what I want and WHO are you to tell me I can't!" They flip the bird and basically inform all who try that they are not interested, have no desire to adjust, assimilate, or adapt and could give a rats ass about whatever ham radio is made up of or operates within. GROUP #2 are THOSE types of CB'ers who we speak of when we put forth the 'stereotype comments and illustrations.' THOSE are the ones who give the CB'ers who WANT to be in the first group a bad image and bad name. THEY are the vocal minority who make it rotten for the rest of them. I, along with many others WELCOME GROUP #1 CB'ers. Have done so and will continue to do so with open arms,. Group #2? Forget it. One proviso.. I have seen.. (unfortunately not many) a *FEW* Group 2 CB'ers FINALLY get the message and change to GROUP 1 CB'ers. For those times this has happened, I am thankful and realize that redemption IS possible. For that.. I keep an open eye and watch for it. But sadly.. it does not happen much.