And, the people it irritates here in this thread: * Likely never use the 30M band, and are only complaining because the thread is here * If they do use the 30M band, they think they can only hang out in one watering hole, forgetting it's an entire band for digital and CW * Complain and whine about everything The biggest complaint is that it'll make a crowded band. Um, so what? That's a good thing. If you don't like it, turn the VFO and don't participate. I don't think too many people are rock-bound anymore.