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The 2020 State of the Hobby Survey is here!

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by N8RMA, May 15, 2020.

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  1. WG7X

    WG7X Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I had avoided this thread for a while, mostly because of disinterest, but having time on my hands lately and being bored, I decided to read through to see what the fellows were talking about. Sure enough, in less time than it takes to get a cup of coffee, the thread had disintegrated into one of the usual QRZ argument fests.

    Dave has the right of it. There is a place for political discussion, and this is not that place. Unfortunately, politics always seems to enter into any discussion here. Some folks simply cannot help themselves.

    I did take the survey, which was probably not necessary but I just wanted to see what the survey was looking for. So, having taken the survey, all I can say is this: meh... No amount of survey taking is going to change anything, just like arguing here about most anything won't change anything either. It was just a mild intellectual diversion over morning coffee, nothing more.

    The one thing that would really change amateur radio this year and in future years is something that we have absolutely no control over and that is the solar cycle. When we have propagation the bands are busy and hams are happy. When we have no or poor propagation hams come to sites like QRZ and amuse themselves arguing about tempests in tea pots.

    The Walrus and The Carpenter
    Lewis Carroll
    (from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)

    The sun was shining on the sea,
    Shining with all his might:
    He did his very best to make
    The billows smooth and bright--
    And this was odd, because it was
    The middle of the night.

    The moon was shining sulkily,
    Because she thought the sun
    Had got no business to be there
    After the day was done--
    "It's very rude of him," she said,
    "To come and spoil the fun!"
    [​IMG]


    The sea was wet as wet could be,
    The sands were dry as dry.
    You could not see a cloud, because
    No cloud was in the sky:
    No birds were flying overhead--
    There were no birds to fly.

    The Walrus and the Carpenter
    Were walking close at hand;
    They wept like anything to see
    Such quantities of sand:
    "If this were only cleared away,"
    They said, "it would be grand!"

    "If seven maids with seven mops
    Swept it for half a year.
    Do you suppose," the Walrus said,
    "That they could get it clear?"
    "I doubt it," said the Carpenter,
    And shed a bitter tear.

    "O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
    The Walrus did beseech.
    "A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
    Along the briny beach:
    We cannot do with more than four,
    To give a hand to each."

    The eldest Oyster looked at him,
    But never a word he said:
    The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
    And shook his heavy head--
    Meaning to say he did not choose
    To leave the oyster-bed.

    But four young Oysters hurried up,
    All eager for the treat:
    Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
    Their shoes were clean and neat--
    And this was odd, because, you know,
    They hadn't any feet.

    Four other Oysters followed them,
    And yet another four;
    And thick and fast they came at last,
    And more, and more, and more--
    All hopping through the frothy waves,
    And scrambling to the shore.
    [​IMG]


    The Walrus and the Carpenter
    Walked on a mile or so,
    And then they rested on a rock
    Conveniently low:
    And all the little Oysters stood
    And waited in a row.

    "The time has come," the Walrus said,
    "To talk of many things:
    Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
    Of cabbages--and kings--
    And why the sea is boiling hot--
    And whether pigs have wings."

    "But wait a bit," the Oysters cried,
    "Before we have our chat;
    For some of us are out of breath,
    And all of us are fat!"
    "No hurry!" said the Carpenter.
    They thanked him much for that.

    "A loaf of bread," the Walrus said,
    "Is what we chiefly need:
    Pepper and vinegar besides
    Are very good indeed--
    Now if you're ready, Oysters dear,
    We can begin to feed."

    "But not on us!" the Oysters cried,
    Turning a little blue.
    "After such kindness, that would be
    A dismal thing to do!"
    "The night is fine," the Walrus said.
    "Do you admire the view?
    [​IMG]


    "It was so kind of you to come!
    And you are very nice!"
    The Carpenter said nothing but
    "Cut us another slice:
    I wish you were not quite so deaf--
    I've had to ask you twice!"

    "It seems a shame," the Walrus said,
    "To play them such a trick,
    After we've brought them out so far,
    And made them trot so quick!"
    The Carpenter said nothing but
    "The butter's spread too thick!"

    "I weep for you," the Walrus said:
    "I deeply sympathize."
    With sobs and tears he sorted out
    Those of the largest size,
    Holding his pocket-handkerchief
    Before his streaming eyes.

    "O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
    "You've had a pleasant run!
    Shall we be trotting home again?'
    But answer came there none--
    And this was scarcely odd, because
    They'd eaten every one.
     
  2. W4HM

    W4HM XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Ham radio is a hobby and a service. Just like the U.S. Coast Guard is a federal law enforcement agency and a military service.
     
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  3. W4HM

    W4HM XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Why do some of us feel that ham radio needs to be saved? If it's a worthy and useful institution it will survive on it's own.
     
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  4. W9AFB

    W9AFB Ham Member QRZ Page

    It would be wonderful if the moderators did a little more moderating on this forum.
     
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  5. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    Done.

    All the political, debt discussion, covid discussion, bickering, etc. removed.

    Anyone wishing to take the survey, it's in the first post.

    Closed to further commentary

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  6. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    @N8RMA: if you would like to publish the results, PM me and I'll open it up for you to post a link or whatever but then it be locked again.

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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