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Discussion in 'Dave's training video sandbox' started by W7UUU, Jun 4, 2025.

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  1. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

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    >>>YOU MUST BE A SUBSCRIBER TO POST "FOR SALE" LISTINGS <<<

    QRZ SWAPMEET RULES

    QRZ.com offers the Swapmeet forum as a free service for amateur radio operators to buy and sell gear. This set of rules is based on decades of experience and is designed to minimize risk and fraud. These rules are not open for debate. If you find them too strict, you are welcome to use another venue.

    While QRZ provides the space, it does not guarantee the outcome of any transaction. All transactions are private matters between the buyer and seller. QRZ will not intervene in a deal unless actual fraud can be proven. Disputes over packaging, shipping delays, or poor communication are not considered fraud.

    If fraud is proven, QRZ may take action against the user, including banning. However, we will not moderate disputes over equipment condition, pricing, or other subjective issues. QRZ will not assist in recovering funds, or legal actions.

    1.0 PURPOSE

    To provide a safe, fair venue for amateur radio operators to buy and sell personal ham gear, and to help prevent fraud and misuse.

    "Ham gear" includes: ham radios, antennas, test gear, power supplies, parts, ham-related software, literature, homebrew items, etc.

    "Ham gear" does NOT include: general-purpose electronics, computers, furniture, tools, cameras, clocks, appliances, toys, cars, boats, real estate, etc. These must be listed under the "General Merchandise" section.

    1.1 WHO MAY SELL

    Only current QRZ Subscribers (of any level) may post "For Sale" listings in the Ham Gear For Sale category.

    You must be logged in as a Subscriber to create a listing. "Ham Member" accounts may upgrade to any paid level to become eligible.

    2.0 PROHIBITED ITEMS

    The following items may NOT be offered for sale or trade:

    • Items illegal to sell or possess in the U.S.

    • Radios/amplifiers banned by U.S. law or regulation

    • Services, repairs, or intangible goods

    • Commercial sales of new/used equipment (see Ham Made Gear rules for exceptions)

    • Firearms, knives, explosives, fireworks

    • Adult content or anything not suitable for a family site

    • CB amplifiers (only legal, FCC Type Accepted amps may be sold)
    NOT ALLOWED IN "Ham Gear For Sale": (But may be posted under General Merchandise)

    • CB, GMRS, air-band, marine, weather, and other non-ham radios

    • Radios on the "FCC banned radios" list

    • Computers, displays, printers, clocks (including "Hamclocks"), computer accessories of any kind

    • Power strips, power distribution panels, surge suppressors, power sequencers, or similar items

    • DJ gear, stereo systems, PA equipment, car audio - unless "ham branded" - this includes Behringer, Alesis, Mackie, Yamaha, etc. etc. - only audio gear with ham brands such as Yaesu, Kenwood, W2IHY, etc. may be listed in the Ham Gear section - even if they can be used in ham applications

    • Parts not specifically ham-related (wire, fuses, switches, etc.) including large batteries of any kind that are not specifically "ham branded"

    • Clothing of any kind - ball caps, hats, coats, etc. (even if ham-themed)

    • Trailers, campers, or other vehicles, even if "equipped for ham use"

    • Real estate of any kind, even if "equipped for ham use"

    • Gift cards or certificates of any kind, even if from a ham radio store like HRO

    • Solar power devices of any kind, or related parts including "roll-up solar chargers", solar controllers, battery controllers, etc.

    • Non-type-accepted amps (e.g., "Dave Made" style truck-stop amps even if sold as covering ham bands, RM Italy without FCC ID)

    • Generic tools: wrenches, hammers, bulk wire, conduit, etc. -
    OK to sell: Homebrew amateur radio amplifiers.

    3.0 QRZ'S ROLE

    • QRZ charges no fees or commissions on sales

    • QRZ assumes no responsibility for transactions in any way

    • QRZ does not verify identity or ownership claims

    • QRZ does not provide escrow or warranties nor can assist in any way with funds recovery or other issues that may arise out of a transaction. The QRZ Swap Meet is "use at your own risk"

    • QRZ will cooperate with law enforcement if called upon
    4.0 LISTING POLICIES

    Listing Titles:

    • Title should include make and model only (e.g., "Yaesu FT-991A") - nothing else

    • Do NOT include words like: "For Sale," "TRADE," "L@@K," "Rare," "NOS," "Mint," "Shack in a Box,", "New!", "Never Used!", etc.

    • Do NOT include specs, serial numbers (unless you regularly sell identical items and the S/N helps the moderators determine if you are relisting), or payment/shipping info in the title

    • Do NOT post "Lowered price," "Reduced," "New price", "Final price," etc. in title

    • No slang or vague terms (e.g., "doodad," "thingy")

    • Avoid all caps (e.g., "Icom IC-7300" is OK, "ICOM IC-7300 TRANSCEIVER FOR SALE" is NOT)
    Title Edits: Moderators may edit titles. Do not re-edit them back.

    Photos:

    • Every item listed for sale MUST have a clear photo showing the ACTUAL ITEM and a visible call sign on a paper tag - see this link - it's easy and all explained here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?th...s-all-sellers-read-this-do-not-ignore.903842/
    • EACH item in the ad must be in a photo with the hand-written name, date, and call sign. The ID paper must be dated within 30 days (and not dated into the future - in other words, the date must be the listing date or older, up to 30 days)

    • Boxed items must be unboxed and the photo must clearly show the item for sale

    • Ads without photos will simply be removed

    • Stock photos may be included as supplements, but not as substitutes for photos of the actual item

    • Do not post 3rd party links to photos only; use the forum's "Upload a File" feature. 3rd party photo links (Photobucket, etc.) frequently break.

    • Photos must be of sufficient resolution and quality or your ad will be flagged for correction. The Qualifying ID photo must very clearly show your name, date, and call sign and unmistakably be in the same shot as the item. Any ID papers that look to be digitally inserted will be cause for the ad to be pulled.
    Videos:

    • Optional, but must show the ACTUAL item - no some YouTube video of someone else's gear

    • Do not use videos of similar gear or factory videos; show your own
    Re-listing Items:

    • You must wait at least 8 full days before relisting the same item. Example: if you list on Monday, you many not relist until the next week on Tuesday

    • Do not re-list individual items from a previous group ad until 8 days pass

    • Mark sold items as "SOLD" within the thread (next to the item that sold) rather than reposting. Even if there are multiple items, you must wait to repost on the 8th day.
    Marking Listings:

    • Once sold or withdrawn, use Thread Tools > Edit Title to mark as:
      • "SOLD"

      • "PENDING"

      • "CANCELLED"
    • Do not delete content after the sale — keep pricing and photos intact

    • Sellers must change the title flag themselves
    Contact Method:

    • Sellers must clearly state preferred method of contact

    • If not specified, buyers can use the "Contact Seller" button

    • Replies to ads are disabled - communication must be via PM or email

    • QRZ does not mediate communication between buyers and sellers
    Third Party Sales:

    • Not allowed unless seller has physical possession of the item, and the listing party call sign must be in the photo with the item. The listing party must assume all responsibility for the sale and shipping, just as if the items were the seller's own.

    • This applies to Silent Key gear and estate sales
    Wrong Categories:

    • Ads posted in the wrong forum will be moved by the moderator (or if a prohibited item, will be deleted)

    • If moved for the listed reasons, please don't appeal to have it "moved back".
    Like Items:

    • Multiple identical items must be grouped into a single listing

    • Do not post separate listings like "Astatic Mic #1," "Astatic Mic #2," etc.
    Excessive Complaints:

    • Ads receiving multiple complaints may be removed

    • Repeat offenders may lose access to the Swapmeet forum
    Ad Quality:

    • Ads that are poorly written or misleading may be removed

    • Sellers must have some sort of descriptive text - not just photos. It's strongly recommended that sellers spell out shipping options and list a selling price.
    Brand Accuracy:

    • Misleading or incorrect branding (e.g., labeling a generic item as a known brand) will result in removal
    Ad Limits:

    • Limit 5 new ads per calendar day

    • Combine multiple items when possible
    Cross-posting to eBay or other sites:

    • Allowed if item is fully listed on QRZ — no "see my eBay listing" without content - the ad must conform in every way to the listing policies laid out above.
    Payment Policies:

    • Do not ask for PayPal "Friends & Family" payment — ads requiring or offering "Friends & Family" (or "Friends only" or "FF", etc. etc.) will be removed.

    • Sellers MAY ask buyers to pay the PayPal fee, but it is highly discouraged. Just build that into your price as a "cost of doing business".

    • Workarounds to the F&F policy like "PayPal accepted (restrictions apply)" are NOT allowed. If you say "Restrictions apply" QRZ will assume you are asking for Friends & Family and remove the ad.
    HANDWRITTEN Call Signs, name, and date required in Photos:

    • ALL photos of sale items MUST include a call sign on paper in the same photo with the item. This is easy to do and ALL explained here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?th...s-all-sellers-read-this-do-not-ignore.903842/

    • This helps prevent scams and ensures legitimacy - you are proving to buyers that you actually possess the item for sale, and that the name, date, and call sign were written by you and not digitally inserted.
    5.0 HAM MADE GEAR

    • This section is for sellers of homebrew or custom ham-related gear

    • No resellers, "dealers", no commercial businesses. Only "ham made cottage business" items may be sold this way.

    • Photos are required, as well as warranty and returns policies. FULL DETAILS for the Ham Made Gear section may be found here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/ham-made-gear.92/

    • Limited to listings of gear made or modified by the seller
    6.0 QRZ’S RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE

    QRZ reserves the right to remove any listing or restrict access at its sole discretion. Violations of these rules may result in a warning, removal of listings, or banning from the Swapmeet.

    CHANGE LOG

    • 6 Apr 2021 — Initial version

    • 21 Jul 2021 — PayPal F&F update

    • 18 Oct 2021 — Forum hogging, SK gear clarified

    • 13–14 Aug 2022 — Prohibited items clarified

    • 10 Mar 2023 — General Merchandise defined

    • 19 Jul 2023 — Misleading branding prohibited

    • 18 Jun 2023 — Third-party policy, listing limits

    • 6 Oct 2023 — PayPal fee dodge rule

    • 17 Oct 2023 — Replies disabled

    • 1–2 Apr 2024 — Call sign photo policy added

    • 23 Apr 2024 — New intro text

    • 22 Feb 2025 — Video policy clarified

    • 7 Apr 2025 — Payment dodge tightened

    • 2 Jun 2025 — Clarified seller’s right to request PayPal fees

    • 4 Jun 2025— Rules re-write for simplicity
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2025

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