Terrorist Networks Use HF E-Mail

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  1. Guest

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    I have been giving this encrypted terrorist messaging thing a lot of thought after …..pointed out that a bunch is going on. I decided that what we need is terrorist encryption detectors so we would all know when the terrorist use the ham bands to send encrypted message.

    First I called the NSA knowing they would surely have something. The were nice, but said that they did not have an encryption detector and said I should call the CIA. I called the CIA and they referred me to the FBI. The FBI agent said that they were domestic only and that I should call RONCO. Ronco said that they could build some, but would want the TV and marketing rights.

    So, we have the problem solved but we will need to buy 300,000 on the first run and then we can give them terrorists a real fit! It does have some side benefits however, as it slices, dices and cleans up in the dishwasher. [​IMG]
  2. W3BNY

    W3BNY Ham Member QRZ Page

    And I thought I led us astray.... thats funny HAHAHA.

    As for the monkey.... Only the monkey knows fer sure and he aint speakin under threat of being put in the grinder [​IMG]
  3. KJ5T

    KJ5T Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    ..see guys.. even the ARRL president likes to have alittle fun..
  4. K4CJX

    K4CJX Ham Member QRZ Page


    Your assertions that "kiddie porn" was being sent over Winlink didn't fly, your assault on the ARRL got a bit of attention, and now you are suggesting that Winlink is carrying terrorists email? And, I guess you assume that CW, SSB, PSK-31 and especially, HF Packet are not?,

    My vote is that they are using drums.

    Steve, k4cjx
  5. K4CJX

    K4CJX Ham Member QRZ Page

    >Consider this.. PII and PIII (Used by Internet/HF->Emailers ) can not be monitored or decrypted unless >you own one of the SCS $1000 modems.. So it is >difficult for someone not dedicated to PII or PIII to >justify the purchase... So unless their is widespread >monitoring of the bands, by someone.. Just about >anyone can abuse it and quite possibly get away with >it...

    >73 Jerry n9lya


    What about all those guys out there that cannot copy 45 WPM sloppy 6:1 vibroplex sent CW? Machines can't and hey, that doesn't take money, just skill. So, all those guys who cannot copy sloppy 6:1 CW at 45 wpm could be letting those who abuse Part 97 really get away with it! Copying that 6:1 ratio sloppy bug sending is certainly not wide spread...

    But Jerry, I can copy it, so maybe the CIA will hire me as a sloppy CW copying consultant....

    Steve, k4cjx
  6. N9LYA

    N9LYA Ham Member QRZ Page

    No need for sarcasium.... No need for defensiveness.. Hereis the Skinny of it.

    Problem #1
    Winlink stands to intentionaly hide their activity... Unless we
    NON-users spend $1000 for a fully functional modem ...

    Solution to Problem #1>
    Why does SCS not sell a receive only decoder for say $100..

    It may have a positive effect on your service..

    1) It may allow those who want to see what PII and pIII can do... Have a look before spending $1000 of hard earned cash..

    2) Plus allow the average HAM the ability to monitor the mode... For pleasure or for OOC duties...

    Problem #2

    The Automatically Controlled Subbands are again in danger of being eradicated.. (posibley)..

    Causing k4cjx to not want me to posty my comments here in open forum..

    Problem #2 Solution

    urge in written letter to the ARRL to retain the Automatically Controlled Digital

    Stations in the rules as they exisit today..

    Then I will leave the open forums on this subject and we can have peace...

    Simple enough!!

    73 Jerry N9LYA
  7. N9LYA

    N9LYA Ham Member QRZ Page

    MIV Why do you insist on never adding anything to the discussion... If you do not like the WHINNING... Go lay down..

    As i said before SIMPLE ENOUGH!!
  8. N9LYA

    N9LYA Ham Member QRZ Page


    Again don't like it leave.

    Simple enough.

    Or just keep whining about us whiners... Whatever

  9. N5PVL

    N5PVL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, MIV, it's cool that you keep this thread active and at the top of the list, where everyone gets a good chance to see it.

    Good thinking!

    Charles Brabham,  N5PVL

    Director: USPacket
    Admin: HamBlog.Com
    Weblog: N5PVL's  Blog
  10. N9LYA

    N9LYA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi MIV,

    Nothing personal.. Lets keep it active...

    I do not mind if thats what you want...

    As far as facts.. We have submitted our to the bandwidth@arrl.org, Jim Haynie and our division directors...

    And here in past threads...

    Todate we have received no verifiable facst from the ARRL or anyone associated with the Proposal..
    73 jerry n9lya
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